in my view, having owned both, the answer is "yes". 

A bit of history might clarify "Todd".  There is a company in upstate NY (US of 
A) called Importika that imports foreign manufactured products and distributes 
them to retailers and sub distributors. The Salzman family which owns the 
company were early into using the Internet to sell directly to the widely 
scattered consumer market for high quality coffee related products.  They 
formed a division called Whole Latte Love (WLL) under the direction of Todd 
Salzman, who happens to be an espresso afficianodo.  They are the master 
distributor for Gaggia, Expobar, and a few other lines and are sub distributors 
for many other lines. Their Internet based activities try to be especially user 
friendly.

In the mid-90's, when "good" home espresso machines were either a multi-group 
restaurant machine (typically used) or a Silvia or Gaggia Classic, the 
manufacturers of commercial machines began offering small HX machines as a next 
step up.  Shortly after the millennium, Todd Salzman became convinced that 
there was an unserved market for a good quality dual boiler machine for the 
home user.  He began working with Expobar to modify one of their platforms to 
meet the constraints of the home market such as 15 amp circuits, etc.  The 
Brewtus is the result.

Todd keeps an eye on this site and occasionally jumps in with his expert 
advice.  Your question is not one that he would be likely to comment on.  
However, when someone says "I' m not getting the support I expect from WLL" 
they are likely to get an email from Todd with his personal number and either 
the answer or a request to call so he can take care of it.

I would recommend that you visit their site and that you consider buying 
directly from them if you wish.  They support their customers effectively and 
well. Just my opinion.
Kitt

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On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Tegespresso <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So if I am reading it right....it is worth it in the long run to go up
> to the rotary pump vs. the vibratory?
> 
> From the entry level Brewtus IV to the Brewtus-R it is $250 extra.
> From the Brewtus-P to the Brewtus-R it is only $150.  But the Brewtus
> IV is reservoir only and not plumbable.
> 
> Where do you recommend purchasing it from?  Who is Todd?  Open box is
> definitely an attractive option.
> 
> After looking at the Duetto II and the Vibiemme, the Expobar Brewtus
> is definitely the most cost friendly of the three; while still giving
> you the PID, E61 head, etc, etc.
> 
> Any other advice or help would be greatly appreciated.....many thanks,
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 11:22 am, Tegespresso <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am new to this group.....so hello to everyone who participates.
>> 
>> I am buying a Expobar Brewtus IV espresso machine.  I am REALLY torn
>> between which model.  My budget is fairly tight and I am going over my
>> budget as it is when upgrading my grinder too.
>> 
>> To that end, my question is: Is is worth it to jump up to the rotary
>> pump model?  If is roughly $250 more in price.  Are the vibratory
>> pumps that much louder?  Any help would be greatly appreciate.
>> 
>> Also, are there any glaring negatives with the Expobar Brewtus IV line
>> of espresso machines?  They seem very well priced for everything you
>> get and that is why I am looking into them so heavily vs. other name
>> brandes like the Vibiemme, Alex Duetto II, etc having dual boiler
>> versions.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
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