--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > You know, I voluntere on a regular basis for psitions which might place
> me in
> > danger and might have a significant benifit for others. (Floor safty
> warden
> > at work for instance) I don't think I once considered glorification or
> > reward. 
> 
> So you wouldn't feel rewarded with a perfect safety record?

Absolutly. But there is a difference between that and doing it for some
public reward. I know that as a waredn I am more likely to die in the
building becouse I am valunteering to be one of the last out. But I do it
becouse I have seen what happens when everyone simply runs for the exit in
panic and without guidance. 

> > I also do not beleive that any of my associates consider this either.
> > I know that if I had been in the position of the gentalman in question, I
> > would have felt -responsible- for the lives of those people who didn't
> know.
> > I would have continued as long as possible becouse of duty and
> responsability
> > rather than a desire for fame, social status, or reward. It is actualy...
> > shifted down, I would have felt guilty if I hadn't, I would not have been
> > able to live with myself. What I really don't understand is how anyone
> else
> > could be any different. In my experiance they are not, so I will have to
> > disagree with you.
> 
> But even if your only reward is that you performed your duty, that is 
> still a reward of sorts.  And why is it your duty?  

Becouse I am capable of keeping my head and others are not....So maybe I do
it out of a sense of superiority, or becouse of some alfa or T type
tendancies. There is definatly reward in that :)

But it seems to be my duty becouse others do not want, or can not perform the
function. I was one of the people on my flour who got the "calm in face of
danger" trait whether it is genetic or learned behavior. The knowledge of
that makes me responsibile.

>Because your duty is 
> an example of cooperative behavior and we have learned that cooperative 
> behavior is successful.

yes, I know it is the successful model and I am interested in more successful
models being reslized. Still I don't volunere becouse I want to be looked on
with approval. Having that orange vest hanging in my office is more of a
source of ridicule than respect.






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