On 7/3/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Not at all, I just like pointing out the irony. > > > > No, you were attributing points from a fictitious person you heard > about on some outrage show to me. My point, had you read it, is quite > different. It's that:
Well then I misunderstood you and I apologize. I assumed this statement applied to Zaragawi also: "In short, if you believe that the ideals this country was founded on only apply to its citizens and not to every person on the planet, then the terrorists have already defeated you." -GG You must have been referring to outside the "fog of war". If that's so then once Zaragawi was captured he could have lawyered up like they did in the JonBenet Ramsey case and nothing would have happened. He could simply plead the fifth. > 1.) If a marine in Iraq is shot at he can shoot to kill. They are only allowed to return fire? That sounds dangerous. You might be right if talking about today since the Iraq army is doing most of the leading. I'm not sure what the rules of engagement are in effect now. > 2.) If a known terrorist, such as Zarqawi, is caught anywhere in the > World, he's open game. That's more like it. > 3.) GitMo detainees deserve an open hearing because that's consistent > with American values. Something we should strive to apply to all > people and ask that they apply to us. > > Translation: the current terrorist/Iraq/Al Quaeda environment is > different from peace time security and different from war. America > needs to lead the World in developing new laws that both allow us to > protect ourselves while also treating our enemy in a manner consistent > with American values. > The best thing we can do as Americans is show the World that, despite > the fact we are fighting monsters, our values still apply. Because if > we take your route, that American values no longer apply, then why > have them? As I pointed out before, prisoners in Gitmo are treated very well. The only issue is the length of detainment and there is no easy answer for that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210599 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
