Let me ask you this, who do you think is responsible for funding and administering these programs?
I agree with you that these programs are needed and are appropriate. However, I do not think it is the responsibility of the Federal government to provide them. I think these should be administered and funded by either privately or religious funded charities. Russel > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 02:51:58 EDT > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > Well, in this case, and this view is going to be very unpopular, I believe > that the problem is that the black culture is"broken" and needs to be fixed. > > Its like up here - the native culture is struggling to find a place where it > can co-exist in a modern world. Alcoholism and drug abuse are terrible > problems among native people. There are programs and programs set up to > change the culture from within - to educate kids from the time they are > small - to rehabilitate addicts - to continue with traditional ways of > living while still getting native kids a good education. > > I personally think that the black culture in this country has some of the > same problems - and I personally think that its probably at least in part > due to prejudice and our american history of slavery. I personally think > that programs should exist for these poor ghetto kids like they do for > native kids. > > Although everything I believe about social programs being necesary probably > goes for all poor people of every color. Its just that when such a > disproportionate number of a certain race live in poverty I think perhaps > concentrating on that race makes sense. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:33 AM > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > Either way, I think the situation you pointed out reveals a greater > > flaw, the education system itself. No need to re-debate it. It is > > obvious that money is not the answer. > > > > My big point is, why not try to fix the bias at the root, rather than > > forcing people into situations. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:36 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > Except that the money is going to the white kids, not the kids who need > > it. > > The problem is that those who make the money end up controlling it. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:27 AM > > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > So give the money where the problem areas are, doesn't matter whether > > > they are white, black, latino, whatever. Same with jobs, give the job > > > to the most qualified person. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:44 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > There is bias in the system favoring one group over another, which > > needs > > > to > > > be fixed. That there are other variables in the mix doesn't mean that > > > race > > > doesn't matter; clearly it does. > > > > > > For example, the sentencing guidelines for possession of crack cocaine > > > are > > > much more severe than sentencing guidelines for possession of powder > > > cocaine - there's something that's actually done a lot of damage to > > > inner > > > city communities, while a noted abuser of powder cocaine is sitting in > > > the > > > White House. > > > > > > In 1999 Giuliani shifted NYC educational funds from Brooklyn and the > > > Bronx > > > to Staten Island and Queens - in the meantime, in NYC in a citywide > > > eighth-grade math test 45% of white students met the standards > > > (disturbing > > > by itself), while only 14% of Latinos and 12% of blacks did. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:23 AM > > > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > What were you referring to then? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:21 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > Then take those on a case by case basis. But affirmative action, > > > > which > > > > > is what I assume you are alluding to is not the answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't assume kevin. > > > > > > > > that wasnt' what I was referring to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
