I think the federal government is the elected body we chose to lead our society. I think it is ALL of our responsibility to provide for these programs and therefore it should be the governments (federal, state, local) who should administer the programs.
The problem with religiously funded charities is that they have an agenda other than helping people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > Let me ask you this, who do you think is responsible for funding and administering these programs? > > I agree with you that these programs are needed and are appropriate. However, I do not think it is the responsibility of the Federal government to provide them. I think these should be administered and funded by either privately or religious funded charities. > > Russel > > > > > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2002/06/18 Tue PM 02:51:58 EDT > > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > Well, in this case, and this view is going to be very unpopular, I believe > > that the problem is that the black culture is"broken" and needs to be fixed. > > > > Its like up here - the native culture is struggling to find a place where it > > can co-exist in a modern world. Alcoholism and drug abuse are terrible > > problems among native people. There are programs and programs set up to > > change the culture from within - to educate kids from the time they are > > small - to rehabilitate addicts - to continue with traditional ways of > > living while still getting native kids a good education. > > > > I personally think that the black culture in this country has some of the > > same problems - and I personally think that its probably at least in part > > due to prejudice and our american history of slavery. I personally think > > that programs should exist for these poor ghetto kids like they do for > > native kids. > > > > Although everything I believe about social programs being necesary probably > > goes for all poor people of every color. Its just that when such a > > disproportionate number of a certain race live in poverty I think perhaps > > concentrating on that race makes sense. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:33 AM > > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > Either way, I think the situation you pointed out reveals a greater > > > flaw, the education system itself. No need to re-debate it. It is > > > obvious that money is not the answer. > > > > > > My big point is, why not try to fix the bias at the root, rather than > > > forcing people into situations. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:36 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > Except that the money is going to the white kids, not the kids who need > > > it. > > > The problem is that those who make the money end up controlling it. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:27 AM > > > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > So give the money where the problem areas are, doesn't matter whether > > > > they are white, black, latino, whatever. Same with jobs, give the job > > > > to the most qualified person. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:44 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > There is bias in the system favoring one group over another, which > > > needs > > > > to > > > > be fixed. That there are other variables in the mix doesn't mean that > > > > race > > > > doesn't matter; clearly it does. > > > > > > > > For example, the sentencing guidelines for possession of crack cocaine > > > > are > > > > much more severe than sentencing guidelines for possession of powder > > > > cocaine - there's something that's actually done a lot of damage to > > > > inner > > > > city communities, while a noted abuser of powder cocaine is sitting in > > > > the > > > > White House. > > > > > > > > In 1999 Giuliani shifted NYC educational funds from Brooklyn and the > > > > Bronx > > > > to Staten Island and Queens - in the meantime, in NYC in a citywide > > > > eighth-grade math test 45% of white students met the standards > > > > (disturbing > > > > by itself), while only 14% of Latinos and 12% of blacks did. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:23 AM > > > > Subject: RE: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > > > What were you referring to then? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:21 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Are you Liberal or Conservative > > > > > > > > > > > Then take those on a case by case basis. But affirmative action, > > > > > which > > > > > > is what I assume you are alluding to is not the answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't assume kevin. > > > > > > > > > > that wasnt' what I was referring to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
