Same here Annette! I figure my vet makes plenty enough money out of me and my healthy dogs as it is without giving him further idea's!! LOL!!
Cathryn On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:08:00 -0000, Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Wouldn't dream of "crucifying you" Jeanie. VBG I totally agree with you - I >sit here in amazement reading what is the "norm" in the USA In nearly 25 >years the only dogs of mine that have had a needle into their vein has been >for the odd C section and one very ill bitch who had two screenings done. >I think the vets over here make a very comfortable living but compared to >those in the US....... > >Annette >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JEANIE MONTFORD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:27 PM >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Thrombocytopenia > > >> Can someone please inform me which companies are doing all this pathology >> testing so that I can buy about 100,000 shares in them and sit back and >> watch my income flow in........obviously I am at the wrong end of the >> business - forget breeding dogs, forget the hours of feeding, cleaning, >> washing, poo picking uping, talking with prospective puppy buyers,...... >I >> want to either >> a) train as a vet in America and get togs tested everyday or >> b) own a pathology company. >> >> Come on folks - step back a bit - are you seriously suggesting that on >the >> basis of a limited study in one country on dogs whose pedigrees we don't >> know and a few people who have posted to this list (which includes only a >> small percentage of the worlds breeders! <G>) that we have a "serious" >> problem? >> >> Lets be sensible - Pat's description of the bitch dying is the very first >> time I have ever heard of such a thing in 30 years being associated with >the >> breed. Perhaps its another instance of "cultural" differences but here in >> Australia, we sit here amazed at the amount of "testing" that you seem to >> consider "normal". >> I don't know anyone here who gets "Diagnostic Health Profiles" done on >their >> dogs! Certainly not on a regular basis, and not even before surgery such >as >> spaying........now don't all jump on me. I think its great that people >care >> about their dogs and are willing to do all that testing but such practices >> are not generally accepted here and after nearly 30 years in the breed and >> having bred many litters, perhaps "many" more than most people who are >> discussing this, I <Grin> I have yet to see or breed a Cavalier which has >> suffered in any way from a "platelet" problem. Yes, other problems, I >don't >> pretend my dogs are perfect, but never the subject of this discussion. >> >> Here our dogs only go to the vet for regular vaccinations or if they are >> sick. And as I don't do annual vaccinations, most of my dogs only get to >the >> vet for a swab before mating or some such thing. >> I agree with Kim <<< The truly difficult decision; does this animal have >> unique qualities that we want reproduced, takes a back seat to the health >> clearance scramble.>>>>. >> Now don't crucify me - I'm not advocating "don't test" - I'm simply trying >> to say that from where I sit, some of the testing looks more to the >benefit >> of the vets than the dogs. And all the health certificates in the world >> doesn't necessarily make a dog a better "Cavalier" - it may test perfect >and >> not even look like the breed and surely we must guard against that >tendency >> as well - and if some of the Cavaliers on web sites are anything to go by, >> that IS a serious problem. >> >> Kim writes <<<<<Genetics are tricky, and most dog breeders are school >> teachers, nurses, AT&T operators, real estate agents, shop keepers...not >> geneticists. But it is expected of these breeders, by the purebred dog >> buying public and their vets, that they have the knowledge, wisdom and >skill >> to produce happy, healthy and condition free dogs. With guarantees. At a >> reasonable cost. With 150% of your money back (to the vet) if the dog has >a >> glitch.( Puppy lemon laws ). And we breeders are to obtain these skills, >> this knowledge, that wisdom by breeding no more than two litters a year, >> 'cause everyone knows that you are a puppy mill if you do more than that! >> >>>>>>. >> >> Couldn't have said it any better! Seems like we can't win either way and >> sometimes I get so depressed about it all, but then I rub dry that >squirming >> slippery lump, hear that first cry and am totally hooked again. And then >I >> get notes like >> <<<<<just a short note to let you know, Rafiki is doing fine and being >> spoilt with lots of attention by the kids. He travelled well back from >> Sydney and only cried for about 5 minutes the first night. >> He is a beautiful puppy and everybody loves him dearly >> thankyou very much >>>> >> and that makes it all worthwhile. >> Jeanie >> >> ========================================================= >> "Magic Commands": >> to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >> to start it up gain click here: >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL >> >> E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >> Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html >> >> All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. 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