Suze, the pup has to be a certain age before you can x-ray. I do prelims at one year of age on everything that we keep. At that age, we can do the patella certificate at the same time (puppies are patella checked at 8 weeks as well). I wouldn't bother to a hip prelim of a pup under 6 months of age.
All the best, Susan Cochran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] was Tri colors now health in colors > Hi, Susan, > Do you mean that the prevalence of Cavaliers who are tested with poor > to fair ratings.....or are you talking about Cavaliers who need medical > management? > I'm surely not planning to ignore HD. <G> However, I am weighing the > thought of testing baby puppies destined to be pets with prelims against > ONLY testing breeding prospects at an older age at which I feel the test > is more comfortable and more accurate. > > Best, > > Suze > > Susan Cochran wrote: > > Suze, the breed wide prevalence of HD is probably 30%. A lot of > > breeders do not test for HD and maintain a "head in the sand" > > attitude about it. It isn't a defect to be taken lightly and can > > creep into your lines and devastate your breeding program, if > > ignored. > > > > One good point is that selection pressure against HD is highly > > effective. If you have not had any problems with HD, then it is > > because a breeder in the ancestry of your dogs has dealt with HD > > effectively AND you have chosen outside stud dogs who were HD tested. > > > > > > All the best, Susan Cochran > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, > > October 18, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] was Tri colors now > > health in colors > > > > > > > >> Hi, Laura, Again, I'm not diminishing the fact that HD could cause > >> pain to specific dogs. I'm *also* not advocating breeding without > >> checking hips. However, I am speculating on the population of > >> Cavaliers who are painful specifically due to HD. You knew of > >> three (I assumed diagnosed by xray)....in how many years of > >> breeding? And, yes, I've heard of a few.....mostly puppymill pups > >> who may have had terribly severe cases. However, I hear more about > >> Cavaliers effected with fly catcher's disease, that neurological > >> neck disorder beginning with "s" that I cannot spell or pronounce, > >> and other such problems. In the number of years I have been on > >> this list, I don't think I've seen many discussions about surgery > >> for hip displasia or even mention of effected Cavaliers. > >> > >> > >> What I am wondering is if in doing prelims you are spending a > >> fortune to prevent a very small population from misery or whether I > >> am missing a larger population that is not identified here? > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Suze > >> > >> > >> Laura Trunk wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> And yes I absolutely DO know of several people who have owned > >>> Cavaliers with HD who are/were in severe pain. I personally know > >>> of at least 3 who had to have surgery the pain was so intense. > >>> At least one or two have stated so on this list and I KNOW others > >>> on this list have dogs right now with HD who are in distress. I > >>> have seen it in posts on this list--I am wondering why others > >>> missed it. > >>> > >> > >> -- Suze at Llawen Cavaliers "...I have seen that in any great > >> undertaking it is not enough for a man to depend simply upon > >> himself." -Isna Ia-wica "Thought comes before speech" Luther > >> Standing Bear > >> > >> (c) Susan A. 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