Thanks, Susan,
I now understand that you are pretty much doing the same thing that we
are doing. But.....as I understand it, Laura is doing prelims on ALL
puppies......Laura are you keeping all pets until they are a year old?
thanks! this has been confusing to me!
Suze
Susan Cochran wrote:
> Suze, the pup has to be a certain age before you can x-ray. I do
> prelims at one year of age on everything that we keep. At that age,
> we can do the patella certificate at the same time (puppies are
> patella checked at 8 weeks as well). I wouldn't bother to a hip
> prelim of a pup under 6 months of age.
>
> All the best, Susan Cochran
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger"
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>> Hi, Susan, Do you mean that the prevalence of Cavaliers who are
>> tested with
>
> poor
>
>> to fair ratings.....or are you talking about Cavaliers who need
>> medical management? I'm surely not planning to ignore HD. <G>
>> However, I am weighing
>
> the
>
>> thought of testing baby puppies destined to be pets with prelims
>> against ONLY testing breeding prospects at an older age at which I
>> feel the test is more comfortable and more accurate.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Suze
>>
>> Susan Cochran wrote:
>>> Suze, the breed wide prevalence of HD is probably 30%. A lot of
>>> breeders do not test for HD and maintain a "head in the sand"
>>> attitude about it. It isn't a defect to be taken lightly and can
>>> creep into your lines and devastate your breeding program, if
>>> ignored.
>>>
>>> One good point is that selection pressure against HD is highly
>>> effective. If you have not had any problems with HD, then it is
>>> because a breeder in the ancestry of your dogs has dealt with HD
>>> effectively AND you have chosen outside stud dogs who were HD
>>> tested.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best, Susan Cochran
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger"
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>>> Friday, October 18, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] was Tri
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Laura, Again, I'm not diminishing the fact that HD could
>>>> cause pain to specific dogs. I'm *also* not advocating
>>>> breeding without checking hips. However, I am speculating on
>>>> the population of Cavaliers who are painful specifically due to
>>>> HD. You knew of three (I assumed diagnosed by xray)....in how
>>>> many years of breeding? And, yes, I've heard of a
>>>> few.....mostly puppymill pups who may have had terribly severe
>>>> cases. However, I hear more about Cavaliers effected with fly
>>>> catcher's disease, that neurological neck disorder beginning
>>>> with "s" that I cannot spell or pronounce, and other such
>>>> problems. In the number of years I have been on this list, I
>>>> don't think I've seen many discussions about surgery for hip
>>>> displasia or even mention of effected Cavaliers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I am wondering is if in doing prelims you are spending a
>>>> fortune to prevent a very small population from misery or
>>>> whether I am missing a larger population that is not identified
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Suze
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laura Trunk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes I absolutely DO know of several people who have owned
>>>>> Cavaliers with HD who are/were in severe pain. I personally
>>>>> know of at least 3 who had to have surgery the pain was so
>>>>> intense. At least one or two have stated so on this list and
>>>>> I KNOW others on this list have dogs right now with HD who
>>>>> are in distress. I have seen it in posts on this list--I am
>>>>> wondering why others missed it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Suze at Llawen Cavaliers "...I have seen that in any great
>>>> undertaking it is not enough for a man to depend simply upon
>>>> himself." -Isna Ia-wica "Thought comes before speech" Luther
>>>> Standing Bear
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