Actually, Sam, that didn't answer my questions at all, but thanks for trying.

I see that there are proposals being drafted for approval by the board, so my 
question to Sage was what kinds of approvals and contracts, if any, were made 
and signed by other foundations that Outreachy works with.

And also, Sage made it sound to me that the applicant/intern makes the final 
decision on which project to work with which would greatly impact the text of 
the proposals and the discussion in general about how much the ASF is directing 
the sponsor's funds.

IMO, without knowing the actual approvals/documents that Outreachy needs from 
the ASF, we can't know what to propose and how difficult it will be to get that 
approval and/or signature.

Or maybe I've missed those specifics in all of these emails.

Thanks,
-Alex
 
On 7/2/19, 4:18 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:37 AM Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > On 7/1/19, 6:01 AM, "Sage Sharp" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >     Sponsors fund the Outreachy general fund or a community. Applicants 
pick
    >     which project to work on. That's been explained elsewhere.
    >
    > Hi Sage,
    >
    > Mainly for my clarification:  By "community" you mean a group like the 
ASF or other OS Foundations?  At Apache we use "community" as the equivalent of 
"project".  And is the "applicant" the intern?  I thought the mentors had some 
say in the matching.
    >
    > One other question:  Does each "community/foundation" need to make some 
formal agreement with Outreachy to have its projects find mentors and hopefully 
interns?  Or do sponsors work directly with projects?
    
    Perhaps I can help.  IBM will specify:
    
       $19,500 "Charitable donation for sponsorship of 3 intern(s) for
       the Apache Software Foundation community projects in the
       December 2019 Outreachy internship round"
    
    Beyond this, IBM will not otherwise participate in the process.  Well,
    some employees might :-), but not as a part of the sponsorship but
    rather as a part of the ASF.
    
    The ASF will need to identify a number of projects for Outreachy to
    list on their site.  It is important that those projects have mentors.
    
    For the December round, Outreachy will start accepting applications in
    September, so we should start encouraging projects to request to be
    added to the list soonish.
    
    I encourage people who are interested in attracting interns to read
    
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outreachy.org%2Fmentor%2Fmentor-faq%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C33ed67861ab84ef08b2e08d6fedef525%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C1%7C636976630914202192&amp;sdata=LsSzzkVQByPoftWZ3bL7h%2BpVBBnxNjo%2F2Qm7BM37%2B6c%3D&amp;reserved=0
    
    Finally, should the ASF not be able to attract enough interns in the
    December round, no problem, we will have up to three more chances.
    From Outreachy's FAQ:
    
    Q: If I sponsor a specific FOSS community and that community doesn't
    find an intern, what happens?
    A: Sometimes FOSS communities don't have enough applicants, or their
    best applicant accepts another opportunity. Outreachy will try to
    encourage applicants towards communities that do not have enough
    applicants but we cannot guarantee that a community will find a
    suitable intern. We will use our best efforts to work with the sponsor
    and use the funds for that particular community or another that the
    sponsor prefers for two years, after which we'll use them for any
    Outreachy activity.
    
    
    - Sam Ruby
    

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