On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Patrick, > > I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback with > Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't see the > input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. > > A quick search shows recent feedback a few months ago that's consistent with my current comments and updates to the board: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1c364f30e6df1880cf924534687dfa787ec8403a0c4f1f5b2e3a1475@%3Cdev.mnemonic.apache.org%3E of course we can always do better/more frequent. > For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page of all > approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that information here: > https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic > > When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote, that's a > great sign. > > There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the committer > diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company affiliations). > > Agree. As noted to the IPMC previously the mentor activity hasn't been great. We're effectively at 1/2 strength. Perhaps with more mentor involvement we could cover more of the bases. > I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to podlings to > get them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving forward > yet due to $reasons. > > That's a good forcing function. Unfortunately it can set expectations with the podling that their mentors "are the bad guys, keeping us from graduation", vs looking out for their best interests and best interests of the foundation. I would expect the mentors to be consulted before significant changes are recommended. Regards, Patrick > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling report? Do >> you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in the past >> month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single person. >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 >> >> As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are around >> diversity. >> >> Patrick >> >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi John and PPMCs >>> >>> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be ready to get >>> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to the >>> processes >>> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with your >>> mentoring >>> and guidance if no objection today >>> >>> - Community graduation vote >>> - IPMC recommendation vote >>> >>> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html >>> Very truly yours >>> +Gary >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi John >>> > >>> > Thank you for starting this discussion. >>> > >>> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more people to >>> join >>> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and already >>> get >>> > interested as i known. >>> > >>> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business so I think >>> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated in time if >>> > qualified. >>> > >>> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic, I'm also >>> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP. >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > Very truly yours >>> > Gary >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >>> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >>> > > >>> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth and well >>> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys to graduate? >>> > > >>> > > John >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >>
