Got it, Thanks for the guidance, We are going to start the official vote. we have also prepared a draft of Graduation resolution for your review, Thanks!
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MNEMONIC/Graduation+Resolution On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: > To do official VOTE thread we need to have proposed board resolution for > the TLP. > > - Henry > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Patrick and Mentors > > > > Thank you for the input and guidance. > > > > I have visited the following page that you mentioned, it looks there are > > some broken links. > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > graduation_check_list > > > > I paste two key sections here as a checklist for verification > > > > - > > > > Preparations > > - > > > > Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in the status file > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-status> > > Yes, it is up-to-date > > - > > > > Ensure suitable names > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> > > for > > project name and product names > > Approved, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH- > 95 > > - > > > > Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> > > Release 8 versions and another one is WIP, involved 3 release > > managers > > - > > > > Demonstrate community readiness > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> > > Our contributors come from different companies and show the > diversity > > and working on different components, all changes have been reviewed > > and > > trackable. we have an open, positive and inclusive atmosphere for > the > > discussion > > - > > > > Ensure Mentors > > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ > > Responsibilities.html#Mentor> > > and IPMC > > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ > > Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> > > have no remaining issues > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> > > We have taken actions on issues from the discussion of graduation > and > > fulfilled the Apache maturity assessment > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp > > -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > > - > > > > Decide upon destination > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > subproject-or-top-level> > > Would be Top-Level Project > > - > > > > Prepare a resolution > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> > > *(top > > level candidates only)*. > > We will prepare our resolution according to > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board > > template > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/ > > templates/podling-tlp-resolution.txt > > and some samples > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CRUNCH/ > > Graduation+Resolution > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/ > > Graduation+Resolution > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DATAFU/ > > Graduation+Resolution > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ > > Graduation+Resolution > > The resolution should be proposed on the general incubator list > > <gene...@incubator.apache.org> before a *VOTE > > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>* is started to allow > > feedback > > - > > > > Subproject acceptance *VOTE* > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > subproject-acceptance> > > by destination Project *(*subproject* candidates only)* > > NA > > - > > > > Incubator PMC (IPMC) > > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ > > Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> > > : > > - > > > > For top level candidates, this is a recommendation *VOTE* > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc- > > top-level-recommendation> > > See below. > > > > - > > > > For subproject candidates, this is a graduation approval *VOTE* > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > subproject-graduation> > > NA > > - > > > > Final hand-over > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes- > on-hand-over > > > > > - > > > > Consider post graduation tasks > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > project-first-steps> > > > > > > Graduation to a top level project requires: > > > > - > > > > a charter for your project > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > preparing_a_charter > > - > > > > a positive community graduation VOTE > > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > community_graduation_vote > > - > > > > a positive IPMC recommendation VOTE > > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> > > I have not found a template for this vote, but we can refer to other > > project's vote. > > Samples > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator- > > general/201709.mbox/%3CCAOqetn_+Oub4Gtr4=hOv= > > cLeMYB0i=xeewkoxibpg1v+cwa...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > - > > > > the acceptance of the resolution > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> > by > > the Board > > > > > > so our next step would be to prepare a resolution, please help to verify > it > > and guide us to complete those steps for graduation, Thanks! > > > > Very truly yours > > Gary. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > ps. > > > > > > > 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation > > > > > > keep in mind that this is the discussion thread and not a vote. Note > (see > > > the link to grad doc I just provided) that you need to do a couple > things > > > before the vote. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > I reviewed the status page earlier today and it looks up to date to > me. > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html > > > > > > > > Similarly the "preparation" steps have been followed afaict: > > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > > graduation_check_list > > > > namesearch <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH- > 95 > > > > > > > etc... signed off a while ago > > > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Let me summarize the discussion on graduation, Please refer to this > > > email > > > >> thread for details. > > > >> > > > >> 1) We have completed the website of Mnemonic that is required before > > > >> graduation > > > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > > > >> > > > >> 2) We have filled the Apache project maturity assessment for > Mnemonic > > > and > > > >> fixed all gaps that would be helpful for graduation > > > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg > > > >> 7jLFp-ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > > > >> > > > >> 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation > > > >> > > > >> Please add yours if any before we are starting graduation votes, > > Thanks! > > > >> > > > >> Cheers > > > >> Gary > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs > > > >>> > > > >>> Looks no new issues crop up for a few days, and many contributors > are > > > >>> positive and voted +1s for graduation, no negative from our > > community, > > > so I > > > >>> think this discussion could be settled down today and proceed to > > > collect > > > >>> votes from our community and IPMCs for graduation, please guide us > if > > > any > > > >>> missing, misunderstanding and suggestion, Thanks! > > > >>> > > > >>> Very truly yours > > > >>> Gary > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > ga...@apache.org> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Looks we have resolved all the issues that you have pointed out > for > > > >>>> graduation, meanwhile, there are more contributors +1 for our > > > project's > > > >>>> graduation so, could we start the community graduation vote and > IPMC > > > >>>> graduation vote according to the following chart extracted from > > > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community ? > > > Thanks! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> [image: Inline image 1] > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>> Gary > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Wen Tong <pures...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> +1 support for graduation. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Wei HE <hevei...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > +1 support for graduation. > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > Wei HE > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > ga...@apache.org > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> >> Yes, I also totally agree this and we will try our best for > the > > > >>>>> readiness > > > >>>>> >> for the graduation. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> For the suggestion that John advised, we have prepared the > > > following > > > >>>>> >> comments for your review, Thanks! > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that > > brought > > > >>>>> me to > > > >>>>> >> your source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless > > > >>>>> you're on > > > >>>>> >> gitbox, the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> The github link has been removed from CD20 and using > > > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/develop/ as the link of > > > >>>>> website. we > > > >>>>> >> also create ticket MNEMONIC-355 (resolved) to remove Github > link > > > >>>>> from > > > >>>>> >> navigator menu on website. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of > this > > > >>>>> item, from > > > >>>>> >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to > > > "centos:latest" > > > >>>>> which > > > >>>>> >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Yes, we will fix it through Apache Jira MNEMONIC-353(reviewed) > > and > > > >>>>> >> MNEMONIC-356(WIP) > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are > from > > > >>>>> committers > > > >>>>> >> or from contributors. If I take > > > >>>>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 > > > >>>>> >> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60> as an > > > >>>>> example, the > > > >>>>> >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source > > code.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> We have requested to revoke all stalled PRs, and all commit > > > >>>>> messages must > > > >>>>> >> contain Apache JIRA number and title. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect > (the > > > use > > > >>>>> of > > > >>>>> >> *most*)* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Yes we will correct it with "The files in the project source > > > >>>>> repository > > > >>>>> >> have appropriate headers", The files under target/ that > > generated > > > >>>>> by mvn > > > >>>>> >> building process would be excluded and all other project files > > > have > > > >>>>> been > > > >>>>> >> properly licensed and guarded by RAT plugin. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator. > apache.org/news/ > > > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/> but that doesn't > > > >>>>> include any > > > >>>>> >> download links. http://mnemonic.incubator. > > apache.org/downloads/ > > > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/> does > include > > > >>>>> download > > > >>>>> >> links to the proper release mirrors.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> That has been corrected by replacing it with the link > > > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Yes, we started with the community vote for releasing and the > > > result > > > >>>>> >> explicitly shows binding and non-binding votes. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *RE30 - Again, not using mirror.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Looks no mirror link in this field. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute > binary > > > >>>>> >> releases."* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Yes it is and corrected > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Sorry I forgot it and corrected it by the Apache Jira ticket > > > >>>>> MNEMONIC-357 > > > >>>>> >> (resolved) as well as MNEMONIC-358 (resolved) > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want > to > > > use > > > >>>>> >> linters, sonar, etc.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Yes, we will investigate this plugin and apply them to project > > > >>>>> later, as > > > >>>>> >> for now, the QU10 has been replaced with "YES. The project > > records > > > >>>>> all bugs > > > >>>>> >> in the Apache’s JIRA issue tracker. Developer also uses > Eclipse > > or > > > >>>>> Intellij > > > >>>>> >> IDEA to improve their code quality." > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security > > > >>>>> vulnerability > > > >>>>> >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to > > > >>>>> confirm > > > >>>>> >> this.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> The QU20 has been replaced with "YES. Security issues would be > > > >>>>> treated with > > > >>>>> >> the highest priority, computing service and memory service are > > > >>>>> separated > > > >>>>> >> from other modules and defined by interfaces, so security > > concerns > > > >>>>> could be > > > >>>>> >> largely mitigated by introduced this design at first place.", > > that > > > >>>>> this > > > >>>>> >> emphasize we consider the security aspect from design > viewpoint > > as > > > >>>>> well. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around > 6 > > > >>>>> months.* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> We have asked owners to properly handle those tickets > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any > > commentary > > > >>>>> or > > > >>>>> >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that?* > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> They are stalled PRs, we have asked the owner to properly > revoke > > > >>>>> them. > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> *The full checklist as follows for you to add comments* > > > >>>>> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/ > > 10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp > > > >>>>> >> -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, John D. Ament < > > > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > Huge +1 to that. > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra < > > > >>>>> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> >> > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for > readiness > > > our > > > >>>>> >> > > graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist. > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > This should be used primarily for self check to make sure > we > > > >>>>> are ready > > > >>>>> >> > for > > > >>>>> >> > > graduation. > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > - Henry > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament < > > > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> Hello, > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim > to > > > >>>>> graduate. > > > >>>>> >> > Its > > > >>>>> >> > >> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been > > > >>>>> successful or > > > >>>>> >> not, > > > >>>>> >> > >> but > > > >>>>> >> > >> instead the IPMC as a whole. I can give you some > feedback > > on > > > >>>>> the APMM > > > >>>>> >> > >> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this > > > form > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> >> > >> completing this form is not a requirement for graduation. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that > > > >>>>> completing > > > >>>>> >> > this > > > >>>>> >> > >> is not a requirement for graduation. Even then, podlings > > who > > > >>>>> think > > > >>>>> >> they > > > >>>>> >> > >> pass it may be missing things. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that > > > >>>>> brought me to > > > >>>>> >> > >> your > > > >>>>> >> > >> source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless > > > >>>>> you're on > > > >>>>> >> > gitbox, > > > >>>>> >> > >> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of > > > this > > > >>>>> item, > > > >>>>> >> > from > > > >>>>> >> > >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to > > > >>>>> "centos:latest" > > > >>>>> >> > which > > > >>>>> >> > >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are > > > from > > > >>>>> >> > committers > > > >>>>> >> > >> or from contributors. If I take > > > >>>>> >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as > an > > > >>>>> example, > > > >>>>> >> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the > source > > > >>>>> code. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect > > > (the > > > >>>>> use of > > > >>>>> >> > >> *most*) > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator. > > > apache.org/news/ > > > >>>>> but > > > >>>>> >> that > > > >>>>> >> > >> doesn't include any download links. > > > >>>>> >> > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does > > include > > > >>>>> download > > > >>>>> >> > >> links > > > >>>>> >> > >> to the proper release mirrors. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC). > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> RE30 - Again, not using mirror. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute > > > binary > > > >>>>> >> > releases." > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old > > artifacts. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may > want > > > to > > > >>>>> use > > > >>>>> >> > >> linters, > > > >>>>> >> > >> sonar, etc. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security > > > >>>>> vulnerability > > > >>>>> >> > >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no > way > > to > > > >>>>> confirm > > > >>>>> >> > >> this. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for > > around > > > 6 > > > >>>>> months. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any > > > >>>>> commentary or > > > >>>>> >> > >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that? > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> Regards, > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> John > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your > > > >>>>> evaluation, > > > >>>>> >> please > > > >>>>> >> > >> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks. > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > All comments and suggestions are welcome! > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > Cheers! > > > >>>>> >> > >> > Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Hi John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament < > > > >>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> Please take a look at > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/ > > > dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Hi John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your > browser > > > and > > > >>>>> then > > > >>>>> >> > review > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> it, Thanks! > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Hi John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for > > > >>>>> pointing it > > > >>>>> >> out, > > > >>>>> >> > >> we > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> will correct this according to your guidance. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Thanks! > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament < > > > >>>>> >> > >> johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored > > > >>>>> artifacts, but > > > >>>>> >> you > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your > > old > > > >>>>> releases > > > >>>>> >> > >> should > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> be archived. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I > > > can't > > > >>>>> find > > > >>>>> >> > >> anything > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format is > > going > > > >>>>> to be > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer. > cgi/incubator/mnemonic > > > >>>>> and you'll > > > >>>>> >> > >> want > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> to grab your specific version from there. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > > > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Hi John, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the > > > navigator > > > >>>>> in home > > > >>>>> >> > >> page, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank > you > > > >>>>> very much > > > >>>>> >> > for > > > >>>>> >> > >> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> suggestion. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang > < > > > >>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package > from > > > >>>>> Apache > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the > > following > > > >>>>> web page > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ > > > incubator-mnemonic/releases > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored > > > >>>>> Github page > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ > > > incubator-mnemonic/releases > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home > page > > > >>>>> dedicated > > > >>>>> >> > for > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> downloading the latest one. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Thanks! > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I download > > > >>>>> Mnemonic? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong < > > > >>>>> >> qich...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist > for > > > >>>>> PPMC > > > >>>>> >> review, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, > > Uma < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready > for > > > >>>>> graduation. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity > > model > > > >>>>> checklist > > > >>>>> >> > to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> check where > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that > sheet, > > > so > > > >>>>> that > > > >>>>> >> will > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> help to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> assess better? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Uma > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" < > > > >>>>> jo...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level > > > >>>>> project . > > > >>>>> >> We > > > >>>>> >> > >> have > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a stable > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache > community > > > >>>>> under the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> guidance of our > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) > > > Wang < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have > > completed > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> construction of > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your > feedback, > > > >>>>> this > > > >>>>> >> Apache > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> server hosted > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and > > maintained > > > >>>>> by > > > >>>>> >> > dedicated > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> community > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the > > visitors > > > >>>>> from > > > >>>>> >> > Github > > > >>>>> >> > >> to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> our Apache > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a > forward > > > >>>>> link in > > > >>>>> >> > >> project > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> README.md > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause > unexpected > > > >>>>> view of > > > >>>>> >> this > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> website, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>please > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in > incognito > > > >>>>> mode. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. > > > Ament < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the > > website > > > >>>>> to the > > > >>>>> >> > >> team. I > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> personally > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a > > > >>>>> graduation. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> that > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick > > > Hunt < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on > > > >>>>> additional RMs > > > >>>>> >> (and > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> increase > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> community > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly > > > document > > > >>>>> >> release > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> procedures I > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>feel > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > that > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely > > > >>>>> addressed. > > > >>>>> >> If > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> there is > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>interest > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, > > but > > > >>>>> up to > > > >>>>> >> you > > > >>>>> >> > - > > > >>>>> >> > >> do > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you feel > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> you're > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, > > Debojyoti > > > >>>>> Dutta < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying > > to > > > >>>>> solve > > > >>>>> >> that > > > >>>>> >> > >> with > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> new > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> committers > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have > > had > > > >>>>> >> > >> contributions > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> from other > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon > and > > > we > > > >>>>> will > > > >>>>> >> see > > > >>>>> >> > >> more > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>committers. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, > Patrick > > > >>>>> Hunt < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings > > over > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>> >> years > > > >>>>> >> > >> and > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this one if > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> very > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As > > > >>>>> noted my > > > >>>>> >> main > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern is > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>about > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular > > > >>>>> "self-sustaining and > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> self-governing > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/gu > > > >>>>> ides/graduation.html# > > > >>>>> >> > community > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise > > > >>>>> statements from > > > >>>>> >> > the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>community > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The > > podling > > > is > > > >>>>> >> > following > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "the apache > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>way" > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining > > > part > > > >>>>> for me. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community as a > > > whole > > > >>>>> is > > > >>>>> >> owning > > > >>>>> >> > >> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> process. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, > > Andrew > > > >>>>> Purtell > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling > > is > > > >>>>> ready for > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation is > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>they > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> do > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, > > > Mnemonic, > > > >>>>> I'd > > > >>>>> >> > >> encourage > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>search > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list > archives > > > for > > > >>>>> >> examples > > > >>>>> >> > >> of > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> other > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>podlings > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting > > the > > > >>>>> result to > > > >>>>> >> > the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>do > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > it. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move > to > > > >>>>> bring in > > > >>>>> >> more > > > >>>>> >> > >> RMs > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>response > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that > everyone > > > is > > > >>>>> aware > > > >>>>> >> of > > > >>>>> >> > >> it. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> didn't > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report might > not > > > be > > > >>>>> read > > > >>>>> >> > back. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, > > John > > > >>>>> D. Ament > > > >>>>> >> < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you > > or > > > >>>>> Andrew > > > >>>>> >> > share > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> your feedback > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> with > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed > > > that > > > >>>>> >> podlings > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> see > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive > responses > > > >>>>> the way > > > >>>>> >> TLPs > > > >>>>> >> > >> do. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's information, > we > > do > > > >>>>> also > > > >>>>> >> > >> maintain > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a whimsy > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>page > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> of > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per > > project, > > > >>>>> Mnemonic > > > >>>>> >> > can > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see that > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > information > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/ > > > >>>>> >> > board/minutes/Mnemonic > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 > > > +1's > > > >>>>> on a > > > >>>>> >> dev > > > >>>>> >> > >> list > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> release > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>vote, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for more > on > > > >>>>> list > > > >>>>> >> > >> discussion, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and yes > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I > > would > > > be > > > >>>>> >> curious > > > >>>>> >> > to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see company > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I > > sometimes > > > >>>>> ask > > > >>>>> >> these > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> questions to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about > > > >>>>> graduation, not > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> actually moving > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > forward > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM > > > >>>>> Patrick Hunt < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my > > feedback > > > >>>>> on the > > > >>>>> >> most > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> recent podling > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe > > this > > > >>>>> has > > > >>>>> >> > changed > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all > > > releases > > > >>>>> have > > > >>>>> >> been > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> done by a > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>single > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/ > > > >>>>> >> incubator/March2017 > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously > my > > > only > > > >>>>> >> concerns > > > >>>>> >> > >> at > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this point > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>are > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 > AM, > > > >>>>> Gang(Gary) > > > >>>>> >> > >> Wang < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our > community > > > and > > > >>>>> project > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>be > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start > > the > > > >>>>> following > > > >>>>> >> > >> votes > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> according > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > > > guides/graduation.html > > > >>>>> with > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> your > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection > > > today > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation > vote > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation > > > Status > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ > > > projects/mnemonic.html > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 > > PM, > > > >>>>> >> Gang(Gary) > > > >>>>> >> > >> Wang > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this > > > >>>>> discussion. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is > growing > > > and > > > >>>>> >> continue > > > >>>>> >> > >> to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> attract > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>more > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some > industry > > > >>>>> users are > > > >>>>> >> > aware > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> of mnemonic > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>and > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver > > > >>>>> unique > > > >>>>> >> values > > > >>>>> >> > to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> their > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>business > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > so I > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important > for > > > us > > > >>>>> to get > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>graduated > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing > > left > > > >>>>> for us to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduate > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose > > our > > > >>>>> project > > > >>>>> >> as > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, > John > > > D. > > > >>>>> Ament < > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your > > recent > > > >>>>> release, > > > >>>>> >> > your > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> current > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>growth > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was > > wondering > > > >>>>> what was > > > >>>>> >> > >> left > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>guys > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you > > > believe > > > >>>>> you > > > >>>>> >> have > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> acted freely. - > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> > > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > > >>>>> >> > >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >
