Hi Gary, https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/mnemonic has draft resolution option. Need to choose a chair. I propose you(Gary Wong) as Chair for Apache Mnemonic project if no other objections. (Do we need vote for this)
Also it says, resolution can be reviewed in private list. >From that whimsy.apache.org/roster Below things needs to be corrected. 1. Licensing * No Software Grant and No IP Clearance Filed * No Release Yet/Missing ASF Copyright Headers on Source Code * No Release Yet/Binary has licensing issues 2. PPMC/Committers in this project are not listed there 3. Prior board report is not linked to June month report. Regards, Uma On 9/7/17, 11:16 AM, "Gary Wong" <qich...@gmail.com> wrote: >Got it, Thanks for the guidance, We are going to start the official vote. >we have also prepared a draft of Graduation resolution for your review, >Thanks! > >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MNEMONIC/Graduation+Resolution > >On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> To do official VOTE thread we need to have proposed board resolution for >> the TLP. >> >> - Henry >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi Patrick and Mentors >> > >> > Thank you for the input and guidance. >> > >> > I have visited the following page that you mentioned, it looks there >>are >> > some broken links. >> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> graduation_check_list >> > >> > I paste two key sections here as a checklist for verification >> > >> > - >> > >> > Preparations >> > - >> > >> > Complete (and sign off) tasks documented in the status file >> > >><https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-status> >> > Yes, it is up-to-date >> > - >> > >> > Ensure suitable names >> > >><https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-names> >> > for >> > project name and product names >> > Approved, >>https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH- >> 95 >> > - >> > >> > Demonstrate ability to create Apache releases >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases> >> > Release 8 versions and another one is WIP, involved 3 release >> > managers >> > - >> > >> > Demonstrate community readiness >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community> >> > Our contributors come from different companies and show the >> diversity >> > and working on different components, all changes have been >>reviewed >> > and >> > trackable. we have an open, positive and inclusive atmosphere >>for >> the >> > discussion >> > - >> > >> > Ensure Mentors >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ >> > Responsibilities.html#Mentor> >> > and IPMC >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ >> > >>Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> >> > have no remaining issues >> > >><https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes-issues> >> > We have taken actions on issues from the discussion of >>graduation >> and >> > fulfilled the Apache maturity assessment >> > >> > >>https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp >> > -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing >> > - >> > >> > Decide upon destination >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > subproject-or-top-level> >> > Would be Top-Level Project >> > - >> > >> > Prepare a resolution >> > >><https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> >> > *(top >> > level candidates only)*. >> > We will prepare our resolution according to >> > >> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > submission_of_the_resolution_to_the_board >> > template >> > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/ >> > templates/podling-tlp-resolution.txt >> > and some samples >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CRUNCH/ >> > Graduation+Resolution >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/ >> > Graduation+Resolution >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DATAFU/ >> > Graduation+Resolution >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MADLIB/ >> > Graduation+Resolution >> > The resolution should be proposed on the general incubator list >> > <gene...@incubator.apache.org> before a *VOTE >> > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>* is started to allow >> > feedback >> > - >> > >> > Subproject acceptance *VOTE* >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > subproject-acceptance> >> > by destination Project *(*subproject* candidates only)* >> > NA >> > - >> > >> > Incubator PMC (IPMC) >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_ >> > >>Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29> >> > : >> > - >> > >> > For top level candidates, this is a recommendation *VOTE* >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#ipmc- >> > top-level-recommendation> >> > See below. >> > >> > - >> > >> > For subproject candidates, this is a graduation approval *VOTE* >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > subproject-graduation> >> > NA >> > - >> > >> > Final hand-over >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#notes- >> on-hand-over >> > > >> > - >> > >> > Consider post graduation tasks >> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > project-first-steps> >> > >> > >> > Graduation to a top level project requires: >> > >> > - >> > >> > a charter for your project >> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> preparing_a_charter >> > - >> > >> > a positive community graduation VOTE >> > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> >> > >> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > community_graduation_vote >> > - >> > >> > a positive IPMC recommendation VOTE >> > <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> >> > I have not found a template for this vote, but we can refer to >>other >> > project's vote. >> > Samples >> > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator- >> > general/201709.mbox/%3CCAOqetn_+Oub4Gtr4=hOv= >> > cLeMYB0i=xeewkoxibpg1v+cwa...@mail.gmail.com%3E >> > - >> > >> > the acceptance of the resolution >> > >><https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution> >> by >> > the Board >> > >> > >> > so our next step would be to prepare a resolution, please help to >>verify >> it >> > and guide us to complete those steps for graduation, Thanks! >> > >> > Very truly yours >> > Gary. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> > > ps. >> > > >> > > > 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation >> > > >> > > keep in mind that this is the discussion thread and not a vote. Note >> (see >> > > the link to grad doc I just provided) that you need to do a couple >> things >> > > before the vote. >> > > >> > > Patrick >> > > >> > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> >>wrote: >> > > >> > > > I reviewed the status page earlier today and it looks up to date >>to >> me. >> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html >> > > > >> > > > Similarly the "preparation" steps have been followed afaict: >> > > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# >> > > graduation_check_list >> > > > namesearch >><https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH- >> 95 >> > > >> > > > etc... signed off a while ago >> > > > >> > > > Patrick >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Let me summarize the discussion on graduation, Please refer to >>this >> > > email >> > > >> thread for details. >> > > >> >> > > >> 1) We have completed the website of Mnemonic that is required >>before >> > > >> graduation >> > > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ >> > > >> >> > > >> 2) We have filled the Apache project maturity assessment for >> Mnemonic >> > > and >> > > >> fixed all gaps that would be helpful for graduation >> > > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg >> > > >> 7jLFp-ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing >> > > >> >> > > >> 3) Many contributed have voted +1s for this graduation >> > > >> >> > > >> Please add yours if any before we are starting graduation votes, >> > Thanks! >> > > >> >> > > >> Cheers >> > > >> Gary >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang >><ga...@apache.org> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Looks no new issues crop up for a few days, and many >>contributors >> are >> > > >>> positive and voted +1s for graduation, no negative from our >> > community, >> > > so I >> > > >>> think this discussion could be settled down today and proceed to >> > > collect >> > > >>> votes from our community and IPMCs for graduation, please guide >>us >> if >> > > any >> > > >>> missing, misunderstanding and suggestion, Thanks! >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Very truly yours >> > > >>> Gary >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> Hi John, Mentors and PPMCs >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Looks we have resolved all the issues that you have pointed out >> for >> > > >>>> graduation, meanwhile, there are more contributors +1 for our >> > > project's >> > > >>>> graduation so, could we start the community graduation vote and >> IPMC >> > > >>>> graduation vote according to the following chart extracted from >> > > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community ? >> > > Thanks! >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> [image: Inline image 1] >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>> Gary >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Wen Tong <pures...@gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> +1 support for graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Wei HE <hevei...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>> > +1 support for graduation. >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > Wei HE >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> > ga...@apache.org >> > > > >> > > >>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> >> Yes, I also totally agree this and we will try our best for >> the >> > > >>>>> readiness >> > > >>>>> >> for the graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> For the suggestion that John advised, we have prepared the >> > > following >> > > >>>>> >> comments for your review, Thanks! >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that >> > brought >> > > >>>>> me to >> > > >>>>> >> your source code. Other projects use hacking guides. >>Unless >> > > >>>>> you're on >> > > >>>>> >> gitbox, the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted >>repos.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> The github link has been removed from CD20 and using >> > > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/develop/ as the link >>of >> > > >>>>> website. we >> > > >>>>> >> also create ticket MNEMONIC-355 (resolved) to remove Github >> link >> > > >>>>> from >> > > >>>>> >> navigator menu on website. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of >> this >> > > >>>>> item, from >> > > >>>>> >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to >> > > "centos:latest" >> > > >>>>> which >> > > >>>>> >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Yes, we will fix it through Apache Jira >>MNEMONIC-353(reviewed) >> > and >> > > >>>>> >> MNEMONIC-356(WIP) >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are >> from >> > > >>>>> committers >> > > >>>>> >> or from contributors. If I take >> > > >>>>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 >> > > >>>>> >> <https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60> as >>an >> > > >>>>> example, the >> > > >>>>> >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source >> > code.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> We have requested to revoke all stalled PRs, and all commit >> > > >>>>> messages must >> > > >>>>> >> contain Apache JIRA number and title. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect >> (the >> > > use >> > > >>>>> of >> > > >>>>> >> *most*)* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Yes we will correct it with "The files in the project >>source >> > > >>>>> repository >> > > >>>>> >> have appropriate headers", The files under target/ that >> > generated >> > > >>>>> by mvn >> > > >>>>> >> building process would be excluded and all other project >>files >> > > have >> > > >>>>> been >> > > >>>>> >> properly licensed and guarded by RAT plugin. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator. >> apache.org/news/ >> > > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/> but that >>doesn't >> > > >>>>> include any >> > > >>>>> >> download links. http://mnemonic.incubator. >> > apache.org/downloads/ >> > > >>>>> >> <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/> does >> include >> > > >>>>> download >> > > >>>>> >> links to the proper release mirrors.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> That has been corrected by replacing it with the link >> > > >>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Yes, we started with the community vote for releasing and >>the >> > > result >> > > >>>>> >> explicitly shows binding and non-binding votes. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *RE30 - Again, not using mirror.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Looks no mirror link in this field. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute >> binary >> > > >>>>> >> releases."* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Yes it is and corrected >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old >>artifacts.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Sorry I forgot it and corrected it by the Apache Jira >>ticket >> > > >>>>> MNEMONIC-357 >> > > >>>>> >> (resolved) as well as MNEMONIC-358 (resolved) >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may >>want >> to >> > > use >> > > >>>>> >> linters, sonar, etc.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Yes, we will investigate this plugin and apply them to >>project >> > > >>>>> later, as >> > > >>>>> >> for now, the QU10 has been replaced with "YES. The project >> > records >> > > >>>>> all bugs >> > > >>>>> >> in the Apache¹s JIRA issue tracker. Developer also uses >> Eclipse >> > or >> > > >>>>> Intellij >> > > >>>>> >> IDEA to improve their code quality." >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security >> > > >>>>> vulnerability >> > > >>>>> >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way >>to >> > > >>>>> confirm >> > > >>>>> >> this.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> The QU20 has been replaced with "YES. Security issues >>would be >> > > >>>>> treated with >> > > >>>>> >> the highest priority, computing service and memory service >>are >> > > >>>>> separated >> > > >>>>> >> from other modules and defined by interfaces, so security >> > concerns >> > > >>>>> could be >> > > >>>>> >> largely mitigated by introduced this design at first >>place.", >> > that >> > > >>>>> this >> > > >>>>> >> emphasize we consider the security aspect from design >> viewpoint >> > as >> > > >>>>> well. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for >>around >> 6 >> > > >>>>> months.* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> We have asked owners to properly handle those tickets >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any >> > commentary >> > > >>>>> or >> > > >>>>> >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that?* >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> They are stalled PRs, we have asked the owner to properly >> revoke >> > > >>>>> them. >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> *The full checklist as follows for you to add comments* >> > > >>>>> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/ >> > 10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp >> > > >>>>> >> -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, John D. Ament < >> > > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > Huge +1 to that. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra < >> > > >>>>> henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>>> >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > > The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for >> readiness >> > > our >> > > >>>>> >> > > graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > > This should be used primarily for self check to make >>sure >> we >> > > >>>>> are ready >> > > >>>>> >> > for >> > > >>>>> >> > > graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > > - Henry >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament < >> > > >>>>> johndam...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> Hello, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling >>aim >> to >> > > >>>>> graduate. >> > > >>>>> >> > Its >> > > >>>>> >> > >> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been >> > > >>>>> successful or >> > > >>>>> >> not, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> but >> > > >>>>> >> > >> instead the IPMC as a whole. I can give you some >> feedback >> > on >> > > >>>>> the APMM >> > > >>>>> >> > >> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of >>this >> > > form >> > > >>>>> and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> completing this form is not a requirement for >>graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand >>that >> > > >>>>> completing >> > > >>>>> >> > this >> > > >>>>> >> > >> is not a requirement for graduation. Even then, >>podlings >> > who >> > > >>>>> think >> > > >>>>> >> they >> > > >>>>> >> > >> pass it may be missing things. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB >>that >> > > >>>>> brought me to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> your >> > > >>>>> >> > >> source code. Other projects use hacking guides. >>Unless >> > > >>>>> you're on >> > > >>>>> >> > gitbox, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a >>violation of >> > > this >> > > >>>>> item, >> > > >>>>> >> > from >> > > >>>>> >> > >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to >> > > >>>>> "centos:latest" >> > > >>>>> >> > which >> > > >>>>> >> > >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo >>are >> > > from >> > > >>>>> >> > committers >> > > >>>>> >> > >> or from contributors. If I take >> > > >>>>> >> > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 >>as >> an >> > > >>>>> example, >> > > >>>>> >> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the >> source >> > > >>>>> code. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is >>incorrect >> > > (the >> > > >>>>> use of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> *most*) >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator. >> > > apache.org/news/ >> > > >>>>> but >> > > >>>>> >> that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> doesn't include any download links. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does >> > include >> > > >>>>> download >> > > >>>>> >> > >> links >> > > >>>>> >> > >> to the proper release mirrors. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC). >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RE30 - Again, not using mirror. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not >>distribute >> > > binary >> > > >>>>> >> > releases." >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old >> > artifacts. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may >> want >> > > to >> > > >>>>> use >> > > >>>>> >> > >> linters, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> sonar, etc. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a >>security >> > > >>>>> vulnerability >> > > >>>>> >> > >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no >> way >> > to >> > > >>>>> confirm >> > > >>>>> >> > >> this. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for >> > around >> > > 6 >> > > >>>>> months. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any >> > > >>>>> commentary or >> > > >>>>> >> > >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> Regards, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < >> > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your >> > > >>>>> evaluation, >> > > >>>>> >> please >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > All comments and suggestions are welcome! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > Cheers! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Hi John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament < >> > > >>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> Please take a look at >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/ >> > > dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < >> > > >>>>> ga...@apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Hi John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your >> browser >> > > and >> > > >>>>> then >> > > >>>>> >> > review >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> it, Thanks! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) >>Wang < >> > > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Hi John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much >>for >> > > >>>>> pointing it >> > > >>>>> >> out, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> we >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> will correct this according to your guidance. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Thanks! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> johndam...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored >> > > >>>>> artifacts, but >> > > >>>>> >> you >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, >>your >> > old >> > > >>>>> releases >> > > >>>>> >> > >> should >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> be archived. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring >>but I >> > > can't >> > > >>>>> find >> > > >>>>> >> > >> anything >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format >>is >> > going >> > > >>>>> to be >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer. >> cgi/incubator/mnemonic >> > > >>>>> and you'll >> > > >>>>> >> > >> want >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> to grab your specific version from there. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) >>Wang < >> > > >>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Hi John, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the >> > > navigator >> > > >>>>> in home >> > > >>>>> >> > >> page, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, >>Thank >> you >> > > >>>>> very much >> > > >>>>> >> > for >> > > >>>>> >> > >> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> suggestion. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) >>Wang >> < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package >> from >> > > >>>>> Apache >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the >> > following >> > > >>>>> web page >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ >> > > incubator-mnemonic/releases >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache >>Mirrored >> > > >>>>> Github page >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/ >> > > incubator-mnemonic/releases >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home >> page >> > > >>>>> dedicated >> > > >>>>> >> > for >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> downloading the latest one. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. >>Ament < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I >>download >> > > >>>>> Mnemonic? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong < >> > > >>>>> >> qich...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this >>checklist >> for >> > > >>>>> PPMC >> > > >>>>> >> review, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, >>Gangumalla, >> > Uma < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready >> for >> > > >>>>> graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity >> > model >> > > >>>>> checklist >> > > >>>>> >> > to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> check where >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that >> sheet, >> > > so >> > > >>>>> that >> > > >>>>> >> will >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> help to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> assess better? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Uma >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" < >> > > >>>>> jo...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top >>level >> > > >>>>> project . >> > > >>>>> >> We >> > > >>>>> >> > >> have >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a stable >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache >> community >> > > >>>>> under the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> guidance of our >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, >>Gang(Gary) >> > > Wang < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have >> > completed >> > > >>>>> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> construction of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your >> feedback, >> > > >>>>> this >> > > >>>>> >> Apache >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> server hosted >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and >> > maintained >> > > >>>>> by >> > > >>>>> >> > dedicated >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> community >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the >> > visitors >> > > >>>>> from >> > > >>>>> >> > Github >> > > >>>>> >> > >> to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> our Apache >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a >> forward >> > > >>>>> link in >> > > >>>>> >> > >> project >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> README.md >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause >> unexpected >> > > >>>>> view of >> > > >>>>> >> this >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> website, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>please >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in >> incognito >> > > >>>>> mode. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John >>D. >> > > Ament < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the >> > website >> > > >>>>> to the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> team. I >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> personally >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a >> > > >>>>> graduation. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM >>Patrick >> > > Hunt < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on >> > > >>>>> additional RMs >> > > >>>>> >> (and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> increase >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> community >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly >> > > document >> > > >>>>> >> release >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> procedures I >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>feel >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been >>largely >> > > >>>>> addressed. >> > > >>>>> >> If >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> there is >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>interest >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in >>favor, >> > but >> > > >>>>> up to >> > > >>>>> >> you >> > > >>>>> >> > - >> > > >>>>> >> > >> do >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you feel >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> you're >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, >> > Debojyoti >> > > >>>>> Dutta < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are >>trying >> > to >> > > >>>>> solve >> > > >>>>> >> that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> with >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> new >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> committers >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We >>have >> > had >> > > >>>>> >> > >> contributions >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> from other >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up >>soon >> and >> > > we >> > > >>>>> will >> > > >>>>> >> see >> > > >>>>> >> > >> more >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>committers. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, >> Patrick >> > > >>>>> Hunt < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of >>podlings >> > over >> > > >>>>> the >> > > >>>>> >> years >> > > >>>>> >> > >> and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this one if >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> very >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good >>trajectory. As >> > > >>>>> noted my >> > > >>>>> >> main >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern is >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>about >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular >> > > >>>>> "self-sustaining and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> self-governing >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/gu >> > > >>>>> ides/graduation.html# >> > > >>>>> >> > community >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise >> > > >>>>> statements from >> > > >>>>> >> > the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>community >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The >> > podling >> > > is >> > > >>>>> >> > following >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "the apache >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>way" >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the >>sustaining >> > > part >> > > >>>>> for me. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community >>as a >> > > whole >> > > >>>>> is >> > > >>>>> >> owning >> > > >>>>> >> > >> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> process. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, >> > Andrew >> > > >>>>> Purtell >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a >>podling >> > is >> > > >>>>> ready for >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation is >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>they >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> do >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, >> > > Mnemonic, >> > > >>>>> I'd >> > > >>>>> >> > >> encourage >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>search >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list >> archives >> > > for >> > > >>>>> >> examples >> > > >>>>> >> > >> of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> other >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>podlings >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and >>submitting >> > the >> > > >>>>> result to >> > > >>>>> >> > the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>do >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > it. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent >>move >> to >> > > >>>>> bring in >> > > >>>>> >> more >> > > >>>>> >> > >> RMs >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>response >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that >> everyone >> > > is >> > > >>>>> aware >> > > >>>>> >> of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> it. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> didn't >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report >>might >> not >> > > be >> > > >>>>> read >> > > >>>>> >> > back. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 >>PM, >> > John >> > > >>>>> D. Ament >> > > >>>>> >> < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did >>you >> > or >> > > >>>>> Andrew >> > > >>>>> >> > share >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> your feedback >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> with >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've >>noticed >> > > that >> > > >>>>> >> podlings >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> see >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive >> responses >> > > >>>>> the way >> > > >>>>> >> TLPs >> > > >>>>> >> > >> do. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's >>information, >> we >> > do >> > > >>>>> also >> > > >>>>> >> > >> maintain >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a whimsy >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>page >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per >> > project, >> > > >>>>> Mnemonic >> > > >>>>> >> > can >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see that >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > information >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/ >> > > >>>>> >> > board/minutes/Mnemonic >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling >>receiving 5 >> > > +1's >> > > >>>>> on a >> > > >>>>> >> dev >> > > >>>>> >> > >> list >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> release >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>vote, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for >>more >> on >> > > >>>>> list >> > > >>>>> >> > >> discussion, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and yes >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I >> > would >> > > be >> > > >>>>> >> curious >> > > >>>>> >> > to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see company >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I >> > sometimes >> > > >>>>> ask >> > > >>>>> >> these >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> questions to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about >> > > >>>>> graduation, not >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> actually moving >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > forward >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 >>PM >> > > >>>>> Patrick Hunt < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my >> > feedback >> > > >>>>> on the >> > > >>>>> >> most >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> recent podling >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't >>believe >> > this >> > > >>>>> has >> > > >>>>> >> > changed >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all >> > > releases >> > > >>>>> have >> > > >>>>> >> been >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> done by a >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>single >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/ >> > > >>>>> >> incubator/March2017 >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned >>previously >> my >> > > only >> > > >>>>> >> concerns >> > > >>>>> >> > >> at >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this point >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>are >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at >>11:07 >> AM, >> > > >>>>> Gang(Gary) >> > > >>>>> >> > >> Wang < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our >> community >> > > and >> > > >>>>> project >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>be >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to >>start >> > the >> > > >>>>> following >> > > >>>>> >> > >> votes >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> according >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ >> > > guides/graduation.html >> > > >>>>> with >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> your >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no >>objection >> > > today >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation >> vote >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation >>vote >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project >>Incubation >> > > Status >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ >> > > projects/mnemonic.html >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at >>11:26 >> > PM, >> > > >>>>> >> Gang(Gary) >> > > >>>>> >> > >> Wang >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting >>this >> > > >>>>> discussion. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is >> growing >> > > and >> > > >>>>> >> continue >> > > >>>>> >> > >> to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> attract >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>more >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some >> industry >> > > >>>>> users are >> > > >>>>> >> > aware >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> of mnemonic >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to >>deliver >> > > >>>>> unique >> > > >>>>> >> values >> > > >>>>> >> > to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> their >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>business >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > so I >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very >>important >> for >> > > us >> > > >>>>> to get >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>graduated >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks >>nothing >> > left >> > > >>>>> for us to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduate >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to >>propose >> > our >> > > >>>>> project >> > > >>>>> >> as >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, >> John >> > > D. >> > > >>>>> Ament < >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your >> > recent >> > > >>>>> release, >> > > >>>>> >> > your >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> current >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>growth >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was >> > wondering >> > > >>>>> what was >> > > >>>>> >> > >> left >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>guys >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you >> > > believe >> > > >>>>> you >> > > >>>>> >> have >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> acted freely. - >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > >>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >>
