Mark, I think that's painting with too wide a brush. The pinnacle levels of Cisco, VMware, and ISC certification are all certs that require significant experience to even sit for, let alone pass. If someone is applying for a high level security position in your organization and they have a CISSP by their name, you can be fairly sure that they're competent, and it definitely gives you a sense of where to begin your discussions. The same with CCIE, or even the VCDX.
These certifications don't guarantee that the person is the best for the job, or even qualified for the job. They certify a certain level of skill and knowledge. An individual requires a lot more than that to be successful, but the skill and knowledge are requirements too. --Matt On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Mark McCullough <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2010 Oct 25, at 15:24, Tom Perrine wrote: >> What's the perception of the value of UNIX and Linux certifications to >> practicing system administrators? Not the value to HR, or hiring >> managers, or (especially) the certification industry, but to us, the >> actual working system administrators. > > There is no such thing as a certification that I count as a positive. Anyone > who thinks their certification means anything is too junior to understand the > basics. If I was feeling particularly ornery, I'd ask HR to filter such > individuals out. > > Every time I work with someone who is certified and thinks it means anything > at all, that person is sorely lacking in basic understanding of fundamental > concepts of Unix. This includes RHCE, the (formerly) Sun Solaris SA cert > (whatever they call it today), etc. > > This also includes some standard security certifications. > > Note, I do not have the same view of college degrees. They don't try and > make as strong a claim as certification, and require significantly more time > involvement and effort to obtain. > > ---- > "The speed of communications is wondrous to behold. It is also true that > speed can multiply the distribution of information that we know to be > untrue." Edward R Murrow (1964) > > Mark McCullough > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > -- LITTLE GIRL: But which cookie will you eat FIRST? COOKIE MONSTER: Me think you have misconception of cookie-eating process. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
