Burn the witch! On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Ron wrote: > I'm not suggesting we pursue criminal action (although..... ;) ) > > But I don't think we should continue doing it, particularly when nobody > else is around. If it's being done publicly while everybody is there and > everybody at the space knows it's happening, that's fine. On the other > hand, if somebody stops by after school today (or whatever), while the > space is empty, to look at pictures of particularly attractive donkeys > (or maybe something more personal, like their family on Facebook), I > feel like that's stepping over The Line. > > Ron > > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote: > > I smell a horse in the room. > > > > Agree with the comments, but what has been done is not illegal (criminal or > > otherwise) based on the situation and current operating precedent in Canada. > > Granted, it isn't an issue that is black and white or even applied > > consistently across the nation. > > > > He is a member of the facility with no policies stating that he couldn't > > expect to do this activity in the Hackerspace (up till this point > > arguably). > > > > I just point this out because Alex seems to be a law abiding citizen (IMHO > > / in scope to this situation) :) > > > > On 2013-04-06, at 9:06 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > As amusing it is as a demonstration, this is almost certainly illegal > > > due to wiretap laws. If everybody used SkullSpace-owned machines and > > > were notified - by a banner or something - that we have the right to > > > monitor their traffic and such, then it would be okay. But as it stands, > > > not everybody who uses the space's Internet connection reads discuss@, > > > and I very much doubt that a post to discuss@ would hold up in court. > > > Therefore, illegal. > > > > > > Additionally, it just 'feels' wrong. Just because you *can* do > > > something, doesn't make it right or ethical to do it, even if it's just > > > as a demonstration. Much like cracking people's passwords simply because > > > you have access to them - it's an invasion of privacy, and also kinda > > > rude. :) > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > On 2013-04-06 01:10, Alex Weber wrote: > > >> Hey everybody, > > >> > > >> Today, I set up a computer with Driftnet running at the space. > > >> It shows, on a nice big display, any JPEG or GIF images that traverse our > > >> black DD-WRT router. > > >> > > >> It's a neat demonstration of what exactly somebody can see when you are > > >> not > > >> using SSL/TLS. > > >> > > >> If you want to learn a few different ways to protect yourself, come to > > >> the > > >> Cryptoparty on the 27th! > > >> > > >> If you feel seriously violated by this installation, please feel free to > > >> disconnect it the next time you're at the space. > > >> > > >> -Alex > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
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