And yes I agree with the Packet Sniffing thing. I also really don't want to
know what teenage girls search up in their spare time. Even if it is only
half as offensive/weird as the shit that I looked at at their age I would
know more about them, or maybe even just think I know, then I ever would
want. I had kind of been thinking along the lines of at family dinner
busting out a monitor and telling them to pull up their favourite site or
image search on their iPods.


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Ace Tunes <[email protected]> wrote:

> lol A monitor on the classroom wall opposing the door so that as you enter
> you see your face. O.O
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think Colin should set up cameras inside the space and show the feeds
>> on a monitor. This will teach people to wear very large hats if they don't
>> want to be seen! Look at what security admins could be doing!!
>>  On 6 Apr 2013 11:30, "Michael Kozakewich" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Ha, just as long as SkullSpace members can’t display their results.
>>> The pictures of fuzzy kittens only last a second before new waves of
>>> horrors take the screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
>>> “I smell a horse in the room.”
>>>
>>> Don’t worry, we don’t yet have reliable Smell-O-Vision playback for the
>>> images on this system!
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Ace Tunes <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:20 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Driftnet (please read)
>>>
>>>
>>> This whole thing got me thinking that I want to set it up as a
>>> presentation to my family of how insecure the internet is. My sisters seems
>>> to think everything they put out there can't be seen by anyone with out
>>> privilege. I think this would be a major wake up call.
>>> On Apr 6, 2013 11:03 AM, "Dave Curry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Burn the witch!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Ron wrote:
>>>> > I'm not suggesting we pursue criminal action (although..... ;) )
>>>> >
>>>> > But I don't think we should continue doing it, particularly when
>>>> nobody
>>>> > else is around. If it's being done publicly while everybody is there
>>>> and
>>>> > everybody at the space knows it's happening, that's fine. On the other
>>>> > hand, if somebody stops by after school today (or whatever), while the
>>>> > space is empty, to look at pictures of particularly attractive donkeys
>>>> > (or maybe something more personal, like their family on Facebook), I
>>>> > feel like that's stepping over The Line.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ron
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
>>>> > > I smell a horse in the room.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Agree with the comments, but what has been done is not illegal
>>>> (criminal or otherwise) based on the situation and current operating
>>>> precedent in Canada.
>>>> > > Granted, it isn't an issue that is black and white or even applied
>>>> consistently across the nation.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > He is a member of the facility with no policies stating that he
>>>> couldn't expect to do this activity in the Hackerspace (up till this point
>>>> arguably).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I just point this out because Alex seems to be a law abiding
>>>> citizen (IMHO / in scope to this situation) :)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 2013-04-06, at 9:06 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > As amusing it is as a demonstration, this is almost certainly
>>>> illegal
>>>> > > > due to wiretap laws. If everybody used SkullSpace-owned machines
>>>> and
>>>> > > > were notified - by a banner or something - that we have the right
>>>> to
>>>> > > > monitor their traffic and such, then it would be okay. But as it
>>>> stands,
>>>> > > > not everybody who uses the space's Internet connection reads
>>>> discuss@,
>>>> > > > and I very much doubt that a post to discuss@ would hold up in
>>>> court.
>>>> > > > Therefore, illegal.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Additionally, it just 'feels' wrong. Just because you *can* do
>>>> > > > something, doesn't make it right or ethical to do it, even if
>>>> it's just
>>>> > > > as a demonstration. Much like cracking people's passwords simply
>>>> because
>>>> > > > you have access to them - it's an invasion of privacy, and also
>>>> kinda
>>>> > > > rude. :)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Ron
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On 2013-04-06 01:10, Alex Weber wrote:
>>>> > > >> Hey everybody,
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> Today, I set up a computer with Driftnet running at the space.
>>>> > > >> It shows, on a nice big display, any JPEG or GIF images that
>>>> traverse our
>>>> > > >> black DD-WRT router.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> It's a neat demonstration of what exactly somebody can see when
>>>> you are not
>>>> > > >> using SSL/TLS.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> If you want to learn a few different ways to protect yourself,
>>>> come to the
>>>> > > >> Cryptoparty on the 27th!
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> If you feel seriously violated by this installation, please feel
>>>> free to
>>>> > > >> disconnect it the next time you're at the space.
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> -Alex
>>>> > > >
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