Ha, just as long as SkullSpace members can’t display their results. The
pictures of fuzzy kittens only last a second before new waves of horrors take
the screen.
> On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
“I smell a horse in the room.”
Don’t worry, we don’t yet have reliable Smell-O-Vision playback for the images
on this system!
From: Ace Tunes
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Driftnet (please read)
This whole thing got me thinking that I want to set it up as a presentation to
my family of how insecure the internet is. My sisters seems to think everything
they put out there can't be seen by anyone with out privilege. I think this
would be a major wake up call.
On Apr 6, 2013 11:03 AM, "Dave Curry" <[email protected]> wrote:
Burn the witch!
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Ron wrote:
> I'm not suggesting we pursue criminal action (although..... ;) )
>
> But I don't think we should continue doing it, particularly when nobody
> else is around. If it's being done publicly while everybody is there and
> everybody at the space knows it's happening, that's fine. On the other
> hand, if somebody stops by after school today (or whatever), while the
> space is empty, to look at pictures of particularly attractive donkeys
> (or maybe something more personal, like their family on Facebook), I
> feel like that's stepping over The Line.
>
> Ron
>
> On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
> > I smell a horse in the room.
> >
> > Agree with the comments, but what has been done is not illegal (criminal
or otherwise) based on the situation and current operating precedent in Canada.
> > Granted, it isn't an issue that is black and white or even applied
consistently across the nation.
> >
> > He is a member of the facility with no policies stating that he couldn't
expect to do this activity in the Hackerspace (up till this point arguably).
> >
> > I just point this out because Alex seems to be a law abiding citizen
(IMHO / in scope to this situation) :)
> >
> > On 2013-04-06, at 9:06 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > As amusing it is as a demonstration, this is almost certainly illegal
> > > due to wiretap laws. If everybody used SkullSpace-owned machines and
> > > were notified - by a banner or something - that we have the right to
> > > monitor their traffic and such, then it would be okay. But as it stands,
> > > not everybody who uses the space's Internet connection reads discuss@,
> > > and I very much doubt that a post to discuss@ would hold up in court.
> > > Therefore, illegal.
> > >
> > > Additionally, it just 'feels' wrong. Just because you *can* do
> > > something, doesn't make it right or ethical to do it, even if it's just
> > > as a demonstration. Much like cracking people's passwords simply because
> > > you have access to them - it's an invasion of privacy, and also kinda
> > > rude. :)
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > On 2013-04-06 01:10, Alex Weber wrote:
> > >> Hey everybody,
> > >>
> > >> Today, I set up a computer with Driftnet running at the space.
> > >> It shows, on a nice big display, any JPEG or GIF images that traverse
our
> > >> black DD-WRT router.
> > >>
> > >> It's a neat demonstration of what exactly somebody can see when you
are not
> > >> using SSL/TLS.
> > >>
> > >> If you want to learn a few different ways to protect yourself, come to
the
> > >> Cryptoparty on the 27th!
> > >>
> > >> If you feel seriously violated by this installation, please feel free
to
> > >> disconnect it the next time you're at the space.
> > >>
> > >> -Alex
> > >
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