lol A monitor on the classroom wall opposing the door so that as you enter
you see your face. O.O


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think Colin should set up cameras inside the space and show the feeds on
> a monitor. This will teach people to wear very large hats if they don't
> want to be seen! Look at what security admins could be doing!!
> On 6 Apr 2013 11:30, "Michael Kozakewich" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   Ha, just as long as SkullSpace members can’t display their results.
>> The pictures of fuzzy kittens only last a second before new waves of
>> horrors take the screen.
>>
>>
>> > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
>> “I smell a horse in the room.”
>>
>> Don’t worry, we don’t yet have reliable Smell-O-Vision playback for the
>> images on this system!
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Ace Tunes <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:20 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Driftnet (please read)
>>
>>
>> This whole thing got me thinking that I want to set it up as a
>> presentation to my family of how insecure the internet is. My sisters seems
>> to think everything they put out there can't be seen by anyone with out
>> privilege. I think this would be a major wake up call.
>> On Apr 6, 2013 11:03 AM, "Dave Curry" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Burn the witch!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Ron wrote:
>>> > I'm not suggesting we pursue criminal action (although..... ;) )
>>> >
>>> > But I don't think we should continue doing it, particularly when nobody
>>> > else is around. If it's being done publicly while everybody is there
>>> and
>>> > everybody at the space knows it's happening, that's fine. On the other
>>> > hand, if somebody stops by after school today (or whatever), while the
>>> > space is empty, to look at pictures of particularly attractive donkeys
>>> > (or maybe something more personal, like their family on Facebook), I
>>> > feel like that's stepping over The Line.
>>> >
>>> > Ron
>>> >
>>> > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote:
>>> > > I smell a horse in the room.
>>> > >
>>> > > Agree with the comments, but what has been done is not illegal
>>> (criminal or otherwise) based on the situation and current operating
>>> precedent in Canada.
>>> > > Granted, it isn't an issue that is black and white or even applied
>>> consistently across the nation.
>>> > >
>>> > > He is a member of the facility with no policies stating that he
>>> couldn't expect to do this activity in the Hackerspace (up till this point
>>> arguably).
>>> > >
>>> > > I just point this out because Alex seems to be a law abiding citizen
>>> (IMHO / in scope to this situation) :)
>>> > >
>>> > > On 2013-04-06, at 9:06 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > As amusing it is as a demonstration, this is almost certainly
>>> illegal
>>> > > > due to wiretap laws. If everybody used SkullSpace-owned machines
>>> and
>>> > > > were notified - by a banner or something - that we have the right
>>> to
>>> > > > monitor their traffic and such, then it would be okay. But as it
>>> stands,
>>> > > > not everybody who uses the space's Internet connection reads
>>> discuss@,
>>> > > > and I very much doubt that a post to discuss@ would hold up in
>>> court.
>>> > > > Therefore, illegal.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Additionally, it just 'feels' wrong. Just because you *can* do
>>> > > > something, doesn't make it right or ethical to do it, even if it's
>>> just
>>> > > > as a demonstration. Much like cracking people's passwords simply
>>> because
>>> > > > you have access to them - it's an invasion of privacy, and also
>>> kinda
>>> > > > rude. :)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Ron
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 2013-04-06 01:10, Alex Weber wrote:
>>> > > >> Hey everybody,
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Today, I set up a computer with Driftnet running at the space.
>>> > > >> It shows, on a nice big display, any JPEG or GIF images that
>>> traverse our
>>> > > >> black DD-WRT router.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> It's a neat demonstration of what exactly somebody can see when
>>> you are not
>>> > > >> using SSL/TLS.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> If you want to learn a few different ways to protect yourself,
>>> come to the
>>> > > >> Cryptoparty on the 27th!
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> If you feel seriously violated by this installation, please feel
>>> free to
>>> > > >> disconnect it the next time you're at the space.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> -Alex
>>> > > >
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