I think Colin should set up cameras inside the space and show the feeds on a monitor. This will teach people to wear very large hats if they don't want to be seen! Look at what security admins could be doing!! On 6 Apr 2013 11:30, "Michael Kozakewich" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ha, just as long as SkullSpace members can’t display their results. The > pictures of fuzzy kittens only last a second before new waves of horrors > take the screen. > > > > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote: > “I smell a horse in the room.” > > Don’t worry, we don’t yet have reliable Smell-O-Vision playback for the > images on this system! > > > *From:* Ace Tunes <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:20 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Driftnet (please read) > > > This whole thing got me thinking that I want to set it up as a > presentation to my family of how insecure the internet is. My sisters seems > to think everything they put out there can't be seen by anyone with out > privilege. I think this would be a major wake up call. > On Apr 6, 2013 11:03 AM, "Dave Curry" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Burn the witch! >> >> On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Ron wrote: >> > I'm not suggesting we pursue criminal action (although..... ;) ) >> > >> > But I don't think we should continue doing it, particularly when nobody >> > else is around. If it's being done publicly while everybody is there and >> > everybody at the space knows it's happening, that's fine. On the other >> > hand, if somebody stops by after school today (or whatever), while the >> > space is empty, to look at pictures of particularly attractive donkeys >> > (or maybe something more personal, like their family on Facebook), I >> > feel like that's stepping over The Line. >> > >> > Ron >> > >> > On 2013-04-06 10:09, Michael Legary wrote: >> > > I smell a horse in the room. >> > > >> > > Agree with the comments, but what has been done is not illegal >> (criminal or otherwise) based on the situation and current operating >> precedent in Canada. >> > > Granted, it isn't an issue that is black and white or even applied >> consistently across the nation. >> > > >> > > He is a member of the facility with no policies stating that he >> couldn't expect to do this activity in the Hackerspace (up till this point >> arguably). >> > > >> > > I just point this out because Alex seems to be a law abiding citizen >> (IMHO / in scope to this situation) :) >> > > >> > > On 2013-04-06, at 9:06 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > As amusing it is as a demonstration, this is almost certainly >> illegal >> > > > due to wiretap laws. If everybody used SkullSpace-owned machines and >> > > > were notified - by a banner or something - that we have the right to >> > > > monitor their traffic and such, then it would be okay. But as it >> stands, >> > > > not everybody who uses the space's Internet connection reads >> discuss@, >> > > > and I very much doubt that a post to discuss@ would hold up in >> court. >> > > > Therefore, illegal. >> > > > >> > > > Additionally, it just 'feels' wrong. Just because you *can* do >> > > > something, doesn't make it right or ethical to do it, even if it's >> just >> > > > as a demonstration. Much like cracking people's passwords simply >> because >> > > > you have access to them - it's an invasion of privacy, and also >> kinda >> > > > rude. :) >> > > > >> > > > Ron >> > > > >> > > > On 2013-04-06 01:10, Alex Weber wrote: >> > > >> Hey everybody, >> > > >> >> > > >> Today, I set up a computer with Driftnet running at the space. >> > > >> It shows, on a nice big display, any JPEG or GIF images that >> traverse our >> > > >> black DD-WRT router. >> > > >> >> > > >> It's a neat demonstration of what exactly somebody can see when >> you are not >> > > >> using SSL/TLS. >> > > >> >> > > >> If you want to learn a few different ways to protect yourself, >> come to the >> > > >> Cryptoparty on the 27th! >> > > >> >> > > >> If you feel seriously violated by this installation, please feel >> free to >> > > >> disconnect it the next time you're at the space. >> > > >> >> > > >> -Alex >> > > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > > >> Archive: >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > > > Archive: >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> -- >> David Michael Curry (Dave) >> <[email protected]> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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