On 6/8/04 12:09 AM, "R. Kirk McPike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why ever not, if you're leaving mail on the server anyway? It's much better >> at this. > > Because I like all of the email from my main accounts intermixed. I like > things kept in my local database. And I don't like my email staying on the > server long -- I only let it stay on the server for two days (four days for > my work account, in order to leapfrog weekends). I don't like the way > Entourage handles IMAP. If it worked like Apple Mail does, with a meta-Inbox > showing the contents of all the account Inboxes, that would be acceptable. > But I'm not going to waste my time clicking through a bunch of account > Inboxes. You can easily set up an IMAP rule to Copy mail to a local folder (local Inbox if that's what you want) and a setting to delete from the server after 3, or 7 or however many days. You can also use a Custom View for Unread messages, or for All Messages, with the older-style Preview Pane below. That will show a Folder column (if you want it to, or remove it). Use this as your central "Inbox" for all new messages. If you don't want to see duplicate local copies, then do your server deletions manually every few days. Actually by using the "Move" button (see below) you don't need any rules. Just read all your mail in this custom view, where it will appear only once. Then, every so often, visit your IMAP account inboxes, select all and Move them to a local folder (Inbox is fine). That will mark them for deletion from the server and you can do an immediate Send & Receive All to do it right away. > > Also, I don't like the way Entourage handles moving email from an IMAP > account to my local folders. Mail does it right: it treats it like a move > command, deleting the IMAP version and creating a copy in the local folder. > Entourage treats it like a copy command, which adds a step of then deleting > the IMAP copy. Life is entirely about avoiding extra steps. I won't put up > with that hit on my time. Is that so? Entourage behaves exactly like the Finder: when you drag files from one volume (disk or partition) to another in the Finder, you get a Copy, not a Move. Entourage behaves the same way with servers when you DRAG. If you drag from one local folder to another, it moves, if you drag from one server folder to another on the same server, it moves; when you drag from local to server, or vice versa, or from one server to another, it copies. Same as the Finder and disks. (In fact, with both the Finder and Entourage, a "Move" is in fact nothing but a "Copy and delete original". In the case of dragging to another disk/server the "delete original" part is omitted for safety reasons, just in case the copy-to-other-volume doesn't work right.) But, if you use the MOVE button in the toolbar, or Move To menu item in Message menu, or shift-cmd-M on the keyboard, it will do the "delete" part for you and do a "real" Move even for IMAP messages to local. > > And once again, an MVP seems to be trying to change the subject. The issue > it hand is WHY would Entourage download the same mail again, not an > opportunity for Microsoft apologists to nitpick my preferred work > environment. This is so rude and gratuitously nasty, I'll go help someone else. I will not be answering any more of your questions here. Entourage does not download messages twice for most people. There are about 3 of you out of 1000 or so subscribers here who are having that problem. For example, I have a POP account which leaves messages on the server when downloading to one of my computers, and removes from the server on the other. I do not get any duplicates on either computer. It sounds as if the ISP for that POP account does not have a very sophisticated "POPper" software . It's supposed to know when a particular client (your computer) has already downloaded once, and mark it "Read" for that computer. It sounds as if it's not doing that as it should. You might want to try this rule: If <Specific header> <Status> <Contains> <R> Then <Change status> to <Read> (or even "Delete message") but I don't know if will make any difference if the ISP's POPper is not working as it should. -- Paul Berkowitz -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
