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"However, if all of the D coupe issues were not completed, i.e. the steel sheet 
on the header tank, etc, can I challenge the fact it was never properly 
converted and in fact is still a C coupe?"

Gentlemen.
I might point out that the  415 C/D is identical to a 415/D except for the 
elevator travel. 
All "enhancements" that the higher gross weight model received were implemented 
in the C/D model as well, yet it runs under the 718 Type Certification.

I believe that the guys at ERCO had in mind that you could choose with the C/D 
model under what Certificate (means gross weight) you will operate the plane, 
hence the C/D.
It is a tragedy to see that all the model differences are mainly determined in 
how the elevator is being rigged, but no one seems to realize that. Practically 
ANY 415 Ercoupe with a C-75 or C-85 engine could fly under 718 Type certificate.

Then I understand that the Sport Pilot rule excludes planes that were even 
OPERATED at higher gross weights. This means that practically NO Ercoupe is 
eligible for the Sport Pilot rule. 

What should have been done by Univair is to ask for a TC amendment that allows 
for a gross weight restriction to 1320 pounds of all non C Ercoupes. That would 
solve all our problems and make flying Ercoupes more practical and safer. 

Hartmut


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One thing to check is weather or not it has an 85hp engine. To the best of my 
knowledge there is no way to have the 85hp with out being a C or higher. I am 
dealing with a similar issue with my plane and it is not as easily solved as 
you might think. A lot depends upon the FSDO office and there interpretation of 
your paperwork.
  Best of luck,
  ~Jeff Fallon
  N789JJ 415D? 

   
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  My C coupe was supposed to have been converted to a D coupe in 1971.  The FAA 
Cd shows this conversion.  However, if all of the D coupe issues were not 
completed, i.e. the steel sheet on the header tank, etc, can I challenge the 
fact it was never properly converted and in fact is still a C coupe?  What 
would be the process for doing so?


  Kim Blackseth
  N2332H




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There are alot of C coupes that are called D coupes but don't have the complete 
conversion. Has the stainless steel sheet ben installed over the header tank 
area?
     My 415-C has everything like a D except for the stainless steel over the 
tank, so it's still only a C. I have a sneaking suspicion that someone may have 
done all the changes to my plane then inadvertently flown it at a 1400lb GW not 
knowing that the conversion had not been completed. They probably even told 
their friends that they had a D. Who knows?

    Randy 
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