On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:46 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/3/2011 8:56 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:35 AM, selva kumar <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:23 AM, selva kumar <[email protected]>
wrote:
Is consciousness causally effective ?
If it is not causally effective, then you must explain what caused
the word "consciousness" to enter our lexicon and what caused the
field of pihlosophy of mind, and all the various books on the
subject of consciousness. The dirty secret of epiphenominalism
(the theory that consciousness is casually inert) is that if it
were a true theory, the theory of epiphenominalism would be
entirely private and unsharable. The fact that a theory was
generated and shared to explain consciousness proves consciousness
has effects. Even the fact that we are discussing it now in this
thread can be taken as evidence of its causal effects.
Jason
Then by your definition..Consciousness is our ability to think ?
No, my point is that if you are thinking about consciousness, then
what else could it have been but consciousness that caused you to
think about it?
That would be the material cause in Aristotles sense. But material
causes don't form causal chains.
Brent
If consciousness is causually inert then history would be the same
even if it were abolished throughout the universe.
To me it seems absurd that we would be endlessly debating some
nonexistent thing which none of us has ever experienced, yet that is
exactly the conclusion that comes from assuming consciousness has no
effects.
Jason
If consciousness had no effects, then we would not think about it,
talk about it, or write e-mails about it.
Jason
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