I wish we would all honestly and humbly admit that WE KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM, B Soroud <bsor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Plus.... lets think through this notion of the Whole..
>
> Is there any such whole? how would you define this whole? What constitutes
> this whole? what is the enduring aspect or defining characteristic of this
> whole?
>
> perhaps this "whole" is our vague and confused invention.... or a mere
> speculative inquiry.
>
> in your notion of the whole the same age-old problems arise......
>
> the problem of unity and diversity... of change and changelesness....
>
> What is universal and invariable about your whole... what is enduring about
> your whole? what is essential about your whole? and are these just
> "matters", "essences", "forces"?
>
> and we just the temporary products and observers or deducers of them?
>
> THOUGHT is the most difficult thing in the world....
>
> "Man is the measure of all things: of things which are, that they are, and
> of things which are not, that they are not" (Protagoras)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM, B Soroud <bsor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "The existence of the whole of that which exists is indisputable (by
>> definition),"
>>
>> But we don't know the "whole of that which exists".... and we shouldn't
>> conceive of the "whole of that which exists" as external to us our outside
>> of us, as "out their somewhere".... "we" are confused and included in the
>> "whole of that which exists".... whatever in the world that or it or I is.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> On 7/5/2011 9:23 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM, B Soroud <bsor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol, you still believe in the dream of God = truth/reality.
>>>>
>>>> Truth/Reality?
>>>>
>>>> nice one!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What is wrong with equating all of truth and all of reality with God?
>>> The existence of the whole of that which exists is indisputable (by
>>> definition), so calling it God is a matter of taste, one which many
>>> religions seem to agree with:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a "matter of taste" usually followed by a lecture on what God
>>> demands of you.  When someone tells me about God I reach for my gun.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
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