On Apr 7, 3:43 pm, 1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 1:37 pm, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Stathis and Brent, > > > I'll respond to both at once since they are the same core objection: > > > "Why does feeling have to have "purpose"? " > > > "I can't even conceive of what it would mean for them > > to be justified. " > > > They have to be justified and have a purpose because that is what a > > deterministic universe would require. > > Nope. Determinism requires efficient causes,, > not final causes or purposes.
What do you say the efficient cause of feeling is? > > > Otherwise I can just say that a > > deterministic universe includes libertarian free will, ghosts & > > goblins, whatever. > > Libertarian free will contradicts the requirment > for sufficent causes. No more than feeling. >The others don;t contradict determinism. Why not? > > > What business does a feeling have being in a > > universe that is essentially a very sophisticated clock? > > Something happened that would cause a feeling. Are you being serious? Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.