On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your claim that it is impossible to feel in a deterministic universe >> is unjustified. It's simply an idea you have taken a fancy to. > > I don't claim that it is impossible to feel in a deterministic > universe, but I suspect that is the case since there is no > deterministic justification for or mechanism of 'feeling' of any kind. > We would have to imagine that there is some mysterious deterministic > purpose for it, otherwise there should be no possibility of feeling, > and a deterministic universe should really be pretty parsimonious when > it comes to allowing for mysterious purposes if it is to be logically > consistent. So there is a completely logical basis for suspecting that > feeling is impossible in a deterministic universe that has nothing to > do with taking a fancy to the idea. I don't care one way or another, > I'm only following the logic where it leads. What would determine that > feeling should exist? > > My claim is that the feeling of free will is a special case that goes > beyond this because even the suggestion of free will is inconceivable > in a universe defined a priori as being deterministic. It would be > like saying we could imagine what the 500th dimension or a new primary > color is like. Why does feeling have to have "purpose"? The universe as a whole does not have "purpose" unless you believe in a certain kind of god. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.