On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:

Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of observations of the physical universe and its processes.## Advertising

This assumes that the actual observable physical universe is exemplified by, and is, instantiations of, mathematics and computations.

`Why not assume that model is different from what is modeled? For example`

`the impedance model of a Li-ion battery`

http://www.unibw.de/eit8_2/forschung-en/projekte/battery/battery is not the Li-ion battery. Even the Newman model of a Li-ion battery http://www.cadfem.de/uploads/pics/EMobilitaet-01_w530.jpg is not the Li-ion battery.

`By the way, when you talk about a representation, you come to the`

`territory of semiotics (the world of signs)`

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/peirce-semiotics/

`"What we see here is Peirce's basic claim that signs consist of three`

`interrelated parts: a sign, an object, and an interpretant."`

From such a viewpoint, simulation as such represents nothing. Evgenii

1) Does this mean that mathematics is *en-coded* as formulas in matter and energy? 2) If so, are models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations, a mathematical computational *decoding* of an *en-coded* mathematical physical reality? Thanks

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