On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:

Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of observations of the physical universe and its processes.This assumes that the actual observable physical universe is exemplified by, and is, instantiations of, mathematics and computations.

`Why not assume that model is different from what is modeled? For example`

`the impedance model of a Li-ion battery`

http://www.unibw.de/eit8_2/forschung-en/projekte/battery/battery is not the Li-ion battery. Even the Newman model of a Li-ion battery http://www.cadfem.de/uploads/pics/EMobilitaet-01_w530.jpg is not the Li-ion battery.

`By the way, when you talk about a representation, you come to the`

`territory of semiotics (the world of signs)`

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/peirce-semiotics/

`"What we see here is Peirce's basic claim that signs consist of three`

`interrelated parts: a sign, an object, and an interpretant."`

From such a viewpoint, simulation as such represents nothing. Evgenii

1) Does this mean that mathematics is *en-coded* as formulas in matter and energy? 2) If so, are models, simulations, emulations, depictions, replications, representations, a mathematical computational *decoding* of an *en-coded* mathematical physical reality? Thanks

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