# Re: Questions about simulations, emulations, etc.

```2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru>

> On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
>
>  2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi<use...@rudnyi.ru>
>>
>>  On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
>>>
>>> 2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi<use...@rudnyi.ru>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> ...
>
>
>  Said that, I still see a computer in front of me (or a
>>>>> computer cluster at work, well I do not see it there but rather
>>>>> access but I guess this does not matter). In other words, even
>>>>> after having accepted your theorem, I do not observe that the
>>>>> typhoon in the computer in front of me makes me wet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes so what ? you're not at the same level so you can't expect
>>>>>
>>>> that... Bruno said "Likewise, the arithmetical typhoons can make
>>>> wet the relative arithmetical entities (with comp)."
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nothing special, I agree. Yet, let us imagine that we are at the
>>> same level. Let me assume that I am in simulation. Yet, even being
>>> in simulation, my simulated computer
>>>
>>
>> ?? No it will make your simulated self in the simulated computer
>> wet... but your simulated self in front of a simulated computer
>> simulating you in front of a typhoon will not... same thing you (the
>> 1st level simulated you) are *not* at the same level (as the
>> simulated simulated you).
>>
>>
> This I do not quite understand. What does it mean simulated levels in
> simulation? After all my computer is simulated and I is simulated. Then
> what is difference between my computer that is simulated and myself that is
> simulated? Where the difference comes from?```
```

You were talking about a 'you' being simulated inside a simulated computer
(so that you is one level down from a simulated you in front of that
simulated computer).

So you have:

"real" computer running a simulation.

In that simulation a universal computer is "built" and on it (the simulated
computer) a simulated being (part of the simulation at the level where the
computer has been built) run another simulation, what is running on the
simulated computer cannot affect the simulated being (which is in front of
it, if the computer is a real simulation of a computer) but can affect
simulated being running on the simulated world of that simulated computer.

Quentin

Evgenii

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