On 6/16/2012 4:06 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/16/2012 10:49 AM, John Clark wrote:
> and these events almost always contributed to the realization
of express plans
If the plans were announced before the event and it always happened
then you would have a very hard time convincing anyone that the event
really was "physically uncaused", few get that lucky so its
statistically much more likely the plans caused the event.
That was Bruno's point that he would sooner suppose that we had just
not looked closely enough, or at a low enough level, to detect the
physical chain of causation. I don' believe in this spirit theory
anyway; I was just trying to show it was a testable theory. Of course
if you take Bruno's view then you risk making materialism an
untestable theory, since no matter what result you can say,"Well it
must be due to a deeper physical phenomenon."
Is this not exactly the point where we enter the abyss of the
unfalsifiable? This is why this is a metaphysical (before physics)
discussion. At what point does a limit impose itself or are we allowing
for infinite regress???
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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