On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > I don' believe in this spirit theory anyway; I was just trying to show it > was a testable theory. >
I have never understood why things are supposed to become less self-contradictory in the "spirit world" than in our world or how spirit theory is somehow fundamentally different from physical theory. If "spirit" caused X and X caused Y then both X and Y came into existence by a deterministic process. As for spirit itself there are only two possibilities, spirit came into existence for a reason or it did not, and you can say exactly the same thing about an electron. > Of course if you take Bruno's view then you risk making materialism an > untestable theory, since no matter what result you can say,"Well it must be > due to a deeper physical phenomenon." > I don't see why it *MUST* be due to a deeper physical phenomenon; nearly every physicists alive says some things have no cause and I can think of no obvious reason why what they say MUST be untrue, so I'm pretty sure they're probably right. I said I couldn't think of a reason but of course I could believe in mystical crap for no reason whatsoever, lots and lots of people do exactly that, but apparently something has caused me not to follow them and embrace the unreasoned life . And testable or not of one thing I am certain, materialism is true or it is not; although I may never know which it MUST nevertheless be true that everything happens for a reason or it does not. And I really don't think any of this is rocket science. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
