On 8/6/2012 1:29 AM, rclough wrote:
Perhaps I am wrong, but I have a problem with the concept of artificial intelligence and
hence artificial life-- at least according to my
understanding of what intelligence is.
As I see it, intelligence is the ability to make choices completely on one's own.
Autonomously.
Thus intelligence is simply self-determination of some issue. By
self-determination I don't
mean free will, athough that might be a possibility.The "self" could use
anything
in memory, (including current perceptions or awareness) or even anything ever thought
of. Darwin tells us that
such choices must be mostly appropriate choices, but sometimes they might occur
mistakenly,
sometimes irrationally, or deceptively. That is, to lie, deception being quite common
in nature.
But a computer program can only make choices that the programmer previously
allowed.
First, that's not true. Computer programs can learn from experience and by communication
- which is they way you learn. Second, evolution supplied you with a brain with certain
built-in routines, such as learning a language and falling love with the opposite sex.
Does that deprive you of self-determination? Can you decide to be someone you aren't?
Brent
So in effect the choices are made by the computer programmer, The programmer is
the puppet master.. But such a programmed "robot" cannot be conscious, for there
is no self to be aware. There is only the presence of electrical signals, which
are objective, but no subjectivity.
.
Thus one might "simulate" life, but one can never create life in a computer.
Materialism has the same fatal defect, for it is completely objective,
and so cannot have a self, which is subjective, to be aware.
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:52:18 AM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote:
This is great news for Bruno! ;-)
I was interested in the computational complexity factor involved.
http://venturebeat.com/2012/07/21/big-leap-in-bio-engineering-scientists-simulate-an-entire-organism-in-software-for-the-first-time-ever/
<http://venturebeat.com/2012/07/21/big-leap-in-bio-engineering-scientists-simulate-an-entire-organism-in-software-for-the-first-time-ever/>
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Onward!
Stephen
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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