Stephan,

Could you not say that 3p is in the mind but only 1p is physical?
I claim that whatever turns 3p into 1p is divine, by definition.
Richard

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:

>  Hi Richard,
>
>     The 1p is the subjective view of one observer. It is not inconsistent
> with GR proper. The problem happens when we abstract to a 3p. I claim that
> there is no 3p except as an abstraction, it isn't objectively real.
>
>
> On 8/23/2012 7:40 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>
> Please tell me how 1p is inconsistent with GR.
> I thought it was inconsistent with QM.
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:
>
>>  Hi Richard,
>>
>>     Yes, the tough but fun part is understanding the continuous version
>> of this for multiple 1p points of view so that we get something consistent
>> with GR.
>>
>>
>> On 8/23/2012 7:32 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>
>> Stephan,
>>
>>  Agreed. All possible states are present in the mind,
>> but IMO only one state gets to be physical at any one time,
>> exactly what Pratt seems to be saying.
>> That's why I called it an axiom or assumption.
>> Richard
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Stephen P. King 
>> <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Richard,
>>>
>>>     I was just writing up a brief sketch... I too am interested in a
>>> selection rule that yields one state at a time. What I found is that this
>>> is possible using an itterated tournament where the "winners" are the
>>> selected states. We don't eliminate the multiverse per se as serves as the
>>> collection or pool or menu of prior possible states that are selected from.
>>> What is interesting about Pratt's idea is that in the case of the finite
>>> and forgetful residuation the menu itself is not constant, it gets selected
>>> as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/23/2012 6:45 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>>
>>> Stephan,
>>> Thanks for telling me what bisimulation means.
>>> I was interested in that choosing only one state at a time eliminates
>>> the multiverse.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On 8/22/2012 4:04 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now this is interesting: "Points have necessary existence, all being
>>>> present simultaneously in the physical object A.
>>>> 15.States are possible, making a Chu space a kind of a Kripke structure
>>>> [Gup93]:
>>>> only *one state at a time* may be chosen from the menu X
>>>> of alternatives.
>>>>
>>>>  Seems that divine intervention may be an assumption. I wonder who
>>>> does the choosing. May I suggest Godellian consciousness?
>>>>
>>>>  Dear Richard,
>>>>
>>>>   No need for divine intervention! I am not sure what "Godellian
>>>> consciousness" is. Let me comment a bit more on this part of Pratt's idea.
>>>> The choice mechanism that I have worked out uses a tournament styled
>>>> system. It basically asks the question: what is the most consistent Boolean
>>>> solution for the set of observers involved? It seems to follow the general
>>>> outlines of pricing theory and auction theory in  economics and has hints
>>>> of Nash equilibria. This makes sense since it would be modeled by game
>>>> theory. My conjecture is that quantum entanglement allows for the
>>>> connections (defined as bisimulations)  between monads to exploit EPR
>>>> effects to maximize the efficiency of the computations such that classical
>>>> signaling is not needed (which gets around the "no windows" rule). This
>>>> latter idea is still very much unbaked.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Onward!
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
>> ~ Francis Bacon
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