Stephan, Could you not say that 3p is in the mind but only 1p is physical? I claim that whatever turns 3p into 1p is divine, by definition. Richard
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Stephen P. King <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Richard, > > The 1p is the subjective view of one observer. It is not inconsistent > with GR proper. The problem happens when we abstract to a 3p. I claim that > there is no 3p except as an abstraction, it isn't objectively real. > > > On 8/23/2012 7:40 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Please tell me how 1p is inconsistent with GR. > I thought it was inconsistent with QM. > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Stephen P. King <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> Yes, the tough but fun part is understanding the continuous version >> of this for multiple 1p points of view so that we get something consistent >> with GR. >> >> >> On 8/23/2012 7:32 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >> Stephan, >> >> Agreed. All possible states are present in the mind, >> but IMO only one state gets to be physical at any one time, >> exactly what Pratt seems to be saying. >> That's why I called it an axiom or assumption. >> Richard >> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Stephen P. King >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> I was just writing up a brief sketch... I too am interested in a >>> selection rule that yields one state at a time. What I found is that this >>> is possible using an itterated tournament where the "winners" are the >>> selected states. We don't eliminate the multiverse per se as serves as the >>> collection or pool or menu of prior possible states that are selected from. >>> What is interesting about Pratt's idea is that in the case of the finite >>> and forgetful residuation the menu itself is not constant, it gets selected >>> as well. >>> >>> >>> On 8/23/2012 6:45 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >>> >>> Stephan, >>> Thanks for telling me what bisimulation means. >>> I was interested in that choosing only one state at a time eliminates >>> the multiverse. >>> Richard >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Stephen P. King <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/22/2012 4:04 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >>>> >>>> Now this is interesting: "Points have necessary existence, all being >>>> present simultaneously in the physical object A. >>>> 15.States are possible, making a Chu space a kind of a Kripke structure >>>> [Gup93]: >>>> only *one state at a time* may be chosen from the menu X >>>> of alternatives. >>>> >>>> Seems that divine intervention may be an assumption. I wonder who >>>> does the choosing. May I suggest Godellian consciousness? >>>> >>>> Dear Richard, >>>> >>>> No need for divine intervention! I am not sure what "Godellian >>>> consciousness" is. Let me comment a bit more on this part of Pratt's idea. >>>> The choice mechanism that I have worked out uses a tournament styled >>>> system. It basically asks the question: what is the most consistent Boolean >>>> solution for the set of observers involved? It seems to follow the general >>>> outlines of pricing theory and auction theory in economics and has hints >>>> of Nash equilibria. This makes sense since it would be modeled by game >>>> theory. My conjecture is that quantum entanglement allows for the >>>> connections (defined as bisimulations) between monads to exploit EPR >>>> effects to maximize the efficiency of the computations such that classical >>>> signaling is not needed (which gets around the "no windows" rule). This >>>> latter idea is still very much unbaked. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." >> ~ Francis Bacon >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > Onward! > > Stephen > > "Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." > ~ Francis Bacon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
