On 29 Aug 2012, at 12:37, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I am of the opinion that recreational drugs should be the preserve
of the retired folk.
In fact in the USA with so many companies and the govt/military
doing random testing
you may as well wait until retirement.
I don't believe in drugs.
A "drug" is just a product made illegal so that we can sell it 100
times its price, without quality controls, and by targetting mainly
the kids, everywhere.
There are no drug problem, only a prohibition problem.
Drug addiction is nowadays easy to cure, with plant like salvia, or
iboga, or even cannabis, which typically are not drugs, even if
cannabis can lead some people to some habituation (but still not as
grave as TV habituation).
The case of cannabis is different for cannabis is just hemp, the plant
that we have cultivated the most on this planet, and it has been made
illegal just because it was a natural competitor to oil and forest.
There is a big amount of literature on this, and the fact that
cannabis is still illegal is a frightening witnessing that most
governement are hostage of criminals.
We know since 1974 that cannabis cures cancer, (american discovery
hidden by Bush senior) but it is only since this has been rediscovered
in Spain, that some media talk about it, but it does not yet make the
headline.
How many people died of cancer since? I can give you tuns of
references and links on this, but the same lies continue.
The two most dangerous recreative "drug" are alcohol and tobacco. The
bandits have tried to prohibit alcohol, but prohibition multiply a lot
the dangerousness of the product, so they have to stop it. So now they
make illegal innocuous product like cannabis, so this can last. The
illegality of cannabis is a coup de genie. It deserves the Nobel prize
in Crime.
And prohibition leads to new drugs which copy the one forbidden, like
"wood-alcohol, or brew" when alcohol was prohibited. In Russia they
have made a severe campaign against heroin, and the result is the
apparition of krokodil, a very nasty, highly addictive substance,
which make you die in terrible pain.
In my country, to prevent the spreading of AIDS, they have
unofficially legalize heroin: the result has been a drastic diminution
of heroin consumption.
Prohibition is the problem, not "drugs". Black money is the problem,
and worse, grey money, the investment of balck money in mundane
finance, which is making the whole middle class, and the banks, into
the hostage of the drugs mafia. Prohibition transforms the planet into
a big Chicago.
And I was used to separate the "war on drugs" from the "war on
terror", but since Obama signed the NDAA bill, I am changing my mind
on this. I begin to think that the war on terror is as fake as the war
on drugs. Pure fear selling business.
But thanks for the retired folk, Richard.
Now, I can hardly imagine that a bar will ask your identity cart for a
beer, and refuses because you are 74 years old: "sorry, but you are to
much young, wait for "growing up"" a little bit :)
Bruno
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
Even Binet, who invented the IQ-tests, insisted that it can be used
only to separate debility and sanity, not to measure small
differences. The paper is mute on the most difficult part to assess,
like such a difference. I am not sure such comparision must be
itself compared with other "drug", like making similar tests,
assuminf they makes sense, which I doubt. How evolve the IQ of
people looking everyday at TV, and "sober" people, or alcoholic?
To be sure I have not yet found the most typical error in statistics
in that field, so that paper might be less wrong than usual, but
still not very convincing, especially in the conclusion. The policy
does not make sense, especially that we are systematically dis-
informed about the real outcomes of basically all medication/drugs,
and this will last as long as people will accept the nonsensical
prohibition (of food and drug) laws, something known to be
anticonstitutional in the US since the start. So my first feeling on
that paper: crap.
Bruno
On 28 Aug 2012, at 15:09, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Finally we have the whole story and truth:
Direct link to PDF in question:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDMQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Finfam.antville.org%2Ffiles%2Fpnas%2F&ei=A7o8UNPENsil0AWCh4CAAg&usg=AFQjCNEnTJj8p7H1m6w40c3PXKIOgjQgQA
Link to abstract:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/22/1206820109.abstract
Thank God Lewis Carroll, Victor Hugo and Alexander Dumas; such jazz
greats as Louis Armstrong, Cab Calloway, Duke Ellington and Gene
Krupa; and the pattern continues right up to modern-day artists and
musicians such as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Eagles, the
Doobie Brothers, Bob Marley, Jefferson Airplane, Willie Nelson,
Buddy RIch, Country Joe & the Fish, Joe Walsh, David Carradine,
David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Lola Falana, Hunter S. Thompson, Peter Tosh,
the Grateful Dead, Cypress Hill, Sinead O'Connor, Black Crowes, etc.
Of course, smoking marijuana only enhances creativity for some and
not for others. But so glad to have proof, that they all had to pay
for their sins in terms of neuropsychological decline.
It makes you dumb. Science has spoken. Dumb, lazy pot smokers under-
performing in IQ-Tests. Nothing beats long-term evidence and a
sample size of 1000.
:) Good science.
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