On 30 Aug 2012, at 20:01, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/29/2012 11:19 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I might write a longer comment, but I will be a bit busy those days.
Here are some references on the fact that cannabis can cure cancer:
Cannabis selectively target cancerous cell, and makes them auto-
phage (eating themselves):
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948 (original spain paper)
And we know that since 1974. When I read that in Jack Herer book, I
did'nt belive it, until the spanish rediscovered this:
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.html
http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/cancer.htm
http://www.gsalternative.com/2010/05/cannabinoids-kill-cancer/
I see I was too quick in my skepticism about cannabis affecting
cancer.
Quentin, did you mix cannabis with tobacco? With alcohol. Those
combination are known to be addictive, but there is no statistical
evidences for cannabis alone. I agree with you Quentin, it uses can
be dangerous, but the use of windows too.
Brent, there are no evidences that cannabis is a problem for lungs.
The one found have been debunked:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html
I never supposed it did. I just supposed that drawing smoke in your
lungs probably isn't good for them.
Actually we have good reason to suspect the presence of strong oncogen
(inducing cancer) molecules in the cannabis tar. The cannabis tar is
indeed quite dangerous in that respect when studied ... in vitro. But
then when statistics are done on large human pot smokers population,
not only cancers don't show up, but a reduction of cancer is observed.
The probable explanation is that some cannabinoids are more effective
against cancer than the oncogen molecules.
By googling on cannabis cancer, you will more information. I count
up to 173 cancers where cannabinoids can help to cure. Many youtbe
video provides indivvidual witnessing also, notably on babies like
this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcI5tWYr6do
In this case it appears that the main effect of the cannabis was as
anti-nausea, which of course helps to cure the cancer, while there
were a half-dozen other drugs that might have killed the cancer cells.
It is hard to derive a general proposition from one case. You might be
right, but it seems that THC injection might just be more efficacious
against cancer than chemo and radio therapies.
Some plant like cannabis and salvia seems to have strong beneficial
influence of the immune system, but of course we have still a lot to
learn. From 1800 to 1900, it seems that most medication was based on
hemp, and that might be true since a much longer time.
The illegality of cannabis is a recent phenomenon, entirely based on
lies. It is not more dangerous than beer, and actually much less
dangerous. People habituated to cannabis does not get problem with
liver, blood, brain, etc. It is, as an inebriant, *much safer than
alcohol.
Anyway, drugs problem is a problem of health, not of criminality.
Addiction is easy to cure, when you don't make the cure illegal, like
in the US and Belgium, where Tabernanthe iboga is illegal, despite one
session with it cures addiction. Prohibition leads to corruption and
black money addiction. It is a killer of democracy.
Bruno
On 29 Aug 2012, at 17:26, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/29/2012 7:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
We know since 1974 that cannabis cures cancer, (american
discovery hidden by Bush senior) but it is only since this has
been rediscovered in Spain, that some media talk about it, but it
does not yet make the headline.
How many people died of cancer since? I can give you tuns of
references and links on this, but the same lies continue.
The media talk about anything. You're going off the rails there,
Bruno. There's no way cannabis cures cancer. If anything,
smoking marijuana will cause lung cancer - though maybe not so
much as tobacco.
Brent
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