Hi Bruno Marchal I was thinking of, say, a gnat, the intelligence perhaps being yes or no in favor of survival.
Roger Clough, [email protected] 10/11/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-10, 13:41:23 Subject: Re: Only you can know if you actually have intelligence On 10 Oct 2012, at 14:23, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Stathis Papaioannou > > You can be tested for intelligence, You can be tested for competence, only. Not for intelligence. Not for consciousness, either. You can test locally for non-intelligence, in front of a repeated mistakes. Intelligence is an emotional thing, related with a form of self- insatisfaction. It can have variate qualities. > but the > enduring solipsist problem shows that you cannot > be tested for consciousness. You can test only relative competence. You can appreciate intelligence, but it depends on your own. Competence is conceptually simple, but hard in practice. Intelligence is conceptually difficult, and hard in practice. Consciousness is conceptually difficult, but easy in practice. > At least nobody seems to have > come up with such a test. Such a test does not even make sense. I think. Bruno > > > Roger Clough, [email protected] > 10/10/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Stathis Papaioannou > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-10-09, 08:35:18 > Subject: Re: Only you can know if you actually have intelligence > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Roger Clough wrote: >> Hi meekerdb >> >> Only you can know if you actually have intelligence, >> although you can appear to have intelligence (as if). >> You can be tested for it. >> >> Thus comp is not different from us, or at least it has the same >> limitations. > > I think you mean "consciousness" rather than "intelligence". > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
