On 08 Nov 2012, at 20:45, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
<[email protected]> wrote:
2012/11/8 John Clark <[email protected]>
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
it is still not clear who "you" refers to and that is why
pronouns
should not be used. If "you" refers to the Helsinki man then
"you" will
experience no city at all because according to Bruno Marchal's
thought
experiment the Helsinki man is destroyed.
This contradicts the time you agreed that one can survive via
duplication.
But it's Bruno's thought experiment and Bruno is the one who said
the
Helsinki man is no more, John Clark is just trying to figure out
who the
hell "you" is. When Bruno says "the Helsinki man is destroyed"
John Clark
interprets that to mean that survival has continued and nobody has
died but
nobody is experiencing Helsinki anymore either; If Bruno means
something
else by "the Helsinki man is destroyed" let him speak up now and
clear
things up.
John K Clark
John Clark is just talking à la Alain Delon and obviously doesn't
want to
debate. This thread is sterile as almost any thread invoking
marvelous John
Clark thoughts.
Quentin
Yes I find it hard to debate John when he only answers only some of
the questions I pose to him and deletes the other questions from his
reply. This is why I suspect he is not seriously trying to advance
his or our understanding.
Yes John Clark seems like wanting to be negative. His posts contains
ad hominem remarks which illustrates that his agenda is perhaps not
really about learning and debating. I should perhaps avoid answering
post containing such remarks.
At the same time people stopping at step 3 are rare, and I have some
interest to figure out what is the problem, or ... what kind of
problems.
Usually opponents simply stop at step 0, without much comments, nor
interests in the field.
Of course there is also some genuine difficulty in step 8, but that
does never come from people having prejudices, just honest people in
front of the genuine intrinsic difficulty of the mind-body problem.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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