Hi Telmo Menezes
I think that according to the definition below, authority implies
a power greater than you are. Pride tells you that you are the greater power.
Thus ignorant and uncaring pride seems to be the source of all injustice.
authority
n pl -ties
1. the power or right to control, judge, or prohibit the actions of others
2. (often plural) a person or group of people having this power, such as a
government, police force, etc.
3. a position that commands such a power or right (often in the phrase in
authority)
4. such a power or right delegated, esp from one person to another;
authorization she has his authority
5. the ability to influence or control others a man of authority
6. an expert or an authoritative written work in a particular field he is an
authority on Ming china
7. evidence or testimony we have it on his authority that she is dead
8. confidence resulting from great expertise the violinist lacked authority in
his cadenza
9. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) (capital when part of a name) a public
board or corporation exercising governmental
authority in administering some enterprise Independent Broadcasting
Authority
10. (Law) Law
a. a judicial decision, statute, or rule of law that establishes a principle;
precedent
b. legal permission granted to a person to perform a specified act
[from French autority, from Latin auctoritas, from auctor author]
[Roger Clough], [[email protected]]
1/16/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Alberto G. Corona
These days, anything that smacks of authority is trashed.
Possibly because of information spreading on the Internet. (Most) authority
thrives on the ignorance of its victims. It's becoming common place for
dictatorships to restrict Internet access when they feel threatened.
?
[Roger Clough], [[email protected]]
1/16/2013
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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Time: 2013-01-16, 03:51:58
Subject: Re: Math-> Computation-> Mind -> Geometry -> Space -> Matter
Yep.
May be because as I say from time to time, we can not live without dogmas or
else there would be no human collaboration, so no human society could exist
whatsoever. The mind was made for that purpose,. Then innately, its notion of
truth is not neutral, it is linked to values. We can not avoid that. ?hat? why
assumptions or premises, slowly become dogmas.?
There are funny examples. Democracy for example, can not be just a convenient
(or the most convenient) way of organizing a society. Once formulated, and
specially among the people that do not accept other dogmas, Inmediately the
democatic principle becomes a dogma an a source of wishdom. so the democratic
decissions can not go wrong. Many people says: The people can not go wrong!!
economy and simplicity homogeneity principle
2013/1/16 Stephen P. King
On 1/15/2013 9:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
?'that there is something fundamental that has particular properties is
unscientific dogma'.
Then everything is unscientific. because no human knowledge can be expressed
without?nproven?remises at the bottom.
Dogmas are not axioms neither premises, neither assumption, but the latter tend
to become dogmas. This has been a constant in history no matter where it is
applied. ?
Dear Alberto,
?? I argue that we can test the results of these dogmas, axioms and other
assumed-to-be-true concepts by their logical consequences in models of the
theories that can be formed from them. We just have to give up the idea that we
can have absolute and infallible knowledge and accept partial and approximate
notions of truth. We can see in the history of mathematics and science how is
is the weakening of absolutist assumptions that has lead us to better knowledge
of the world, so why do we keep kicking against the pricks?
??
2013/1/15 Bruno Marchal
'that there is something fundamental that has particular properties is
unscientific dogma'.
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