On 1/24/2013 9:12 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
All these things are part of the myths of modernity. The reality is quite different. The idea that the medievals though that the earth was flat is larguely a myth,

"As to the fable that there are Antipodes, that is to say,
men on the opposite side of the earth where the sun rises
when it sets to us, men who walk with their feet opposite
ours, that is on no ground credible."
      --- St. Augustine

To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous
as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin.
      --- Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615, letter to Paolo Frascioni

as true as the fact that now a fair amount of the people in the world believe that Man has not been in the Moon. Inquisition, for example, and the burning of withches was a phenomenon of the early modern age not from the middle age, where woman had quite more freedon,

The Church punished heresy from the time it gained power. Inquistions became formalized with the suppression of the Cathars in the 12th century (the medieval period by any reckoning)

Certainly, the pursuit of knowledge was obstructed by the Church as long as it had the power - not just in the medieval period. The Spanish Inquisition ended in 1834.

The popular ideas about the medieval era are based in prejudices that are part of the essence of modernity, which has the need of the existence of a "dark age" (the "Middle Age") and a Golden age (The ancient age) for its existence. the mytical tree stages in history is part of this gnostic elaboration invented by Joachim de Fiore. Since them all ideological creations, including the modern division of history had three stages.

And the Catholic Church has been trying to revise history ever since to conceal it's role in obstructing science, oppressing women, harboring pedophiles, and murdering jews.

Brent





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    On 1/24/2013 8:33 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
    This is exactly what happened to Islam in the 1300s.
    After the fundamentalists took over, rationality was dispensed with,
    and centuries of scientific progress were deemed sufficient for Islam
    for all time. And so it seems that Islam went from world leadership in
    science to where it is today.

    Fortunately the same did not happen to the Christians. But based on
    John's comments, I wonder why not.

    But it did happen.  The Greeks already knew the Earth was a sphere, how far 
away and
    how big the Sun was.  They had a speculative idea of biological evolution.  
They had
    the concept of atoms and how all matter might be constructed from just a 
few basic
    components in different combinations.  Aristotle was an empiricist.  If it 
had not
    been for the early Church's emphasis on faith, dogma, and rationalism, 
science would
    be centuries more advanced.

    Brent
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