Brent: I hold you in a much higher standard than being a participant in such tongue-lashing about topics absolutely not fitting the Everything List and its goals. Could we save (use?) this list for reasonable scientific discussion? \ Does anybody have a 'fitting' topic we could discuss? For many weeks it goes round and round without sense-making. Unfortunately Bruno, lately arbiter of (his) topics as center of most discussions - feels quite comfortable in the faith-related huppla. Hoping for a better time Onlist John Mikes
On 1/24/13, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> wrote: > I know the traditions of my country quite well and they include religious > tolerance - the first nation to encode that in its constitution. > > You are an unleashed ate moralist, devoid of any principle or reality. your > knowledge of History is a the one of a Lego game where you construct your > excuses your auto-sanctifications and were you find your trowable > one-line weapons. You convert any discussion into a waste of time. > > > 2013/1/24 meekerdb <[email protected]> > >> On 1/24/2013 10:46 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: >> >> >> >> >> 2013/1/24 meekerdb <[email protected]> >> >>> On 1/24/2013 10:12 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: >>> >>> In the same way, except a few in a concrete time in the greek history, >>> the Greeks believed that the earth was flat, with the center in Greece. >>> The >>> world okeanos, (ocean) was a river, that surrounded the earth, where >>> greece >>> was at the center. >>> >>> The XII century, the time of Juachim de Fiore, and the time of the >>> Katars was a time of greath economic growth. It is true that the >>> inquisition was created at that time, but except with the katars (that >>> worshipped Lucifer), the Inquisition became really active in the >>> Renaissance.The horrid Spanish Inquisition produced around 2000 death >>> penalties, while the protestants burned without ,judicial case, >>> thousands >>> between battle and battle in the European wars of religion >>> >>> Compare this with the hundreds of thousands killed in La Vendee, a smal >>> region of France in a few days, killed by the rationalist french >>> revolutionaries >>> >>> >>> It was more like 70,000 and it was in putting down an insurrection. >>> >>> >>> or the hundred millions killed by the scientific socialists. >>> >>> >>> The Stalinist and Maoists were hardly 'scientific', they just weren't >>> theists. For example, they rejected Darwin just like Baptists do. >>> >>> They were as scientific as your global warmist friends. >> >> The people like you have a great advantage: you are born every morning, >> and with the tooth paste, hearing the news, blaming the world for their >> faults, >> >> >> A least I place the blame where it belongs. You blame whoever is not a >> fellow theist. >> >> you auto-sanctify yourselves. >> >> >> And you have a professional priesthood to save you the trouble. >> >> >> >> Your country did something bad? You are not concerned, >> >> >> I marched in protest of Viet Nam and the second Iraq war and in support >> of >> the civil rights movement. I canvassed votes for Gene McCarthy >> door-to-door and later for George McGovern. >> >> >> you blame your country. Your father did something bad? you blame your >> father, >> >> >> Well sure. I'm not God who punishes everybody for what Adam and Eve did. >> >> >> You are nothing. you are you. >> >> >> Make up your mind. >> >> >> You can blame everyone else for his faults, but you were born >> yesterday, you are willing to betray your father to avoid any blame. >> >> >> Now you're just ranting. >> >> >> >>> (or the 5+30 millions killed by the modern eugenesists). >>> >>> >> >> And hundreds of millions condemned to starvation and venereal disease by >> the Catholic Church's opposition to birth control and condoms. >> >> >> >>> The selection of stories in a biased way is a proof of nothing but the >>> own prejudices. >>> >>> >>> It seems strange to hear moral relativism from a Christian. I'd say >>> it's evidence that all those events and whatever agenda they were >>> implementing were evil. But the point is that the Church held itself as >>> the sole and absolute moral authority with instructions directly from >>> God. >>> So it's a little more significant when it commits its crimes in the name >>> of >>> God. >>> >>> I accept the good things and the true bad things of my tradition. but >> not the false ones. >> >> >> Of your tradition? Is there nothing you have done yourself? You just >> "accept" the bad? You have not protested the pedophilia, the oppression >> of >> women, the ignorant opposition to stem cell research, the homophobia,... >> >> >> >> And you? have you something to blame yourself?. You are one in a wave >> of hypocrites that will repeat the bloody errors of your tradition, >> >> >> Maybe so, but so far as I know no scientist has advocated burning an >> opponent at the stake. >> >> >> >> that has a long history of horrors. It is not certainly the tradition >> of your country, neither the tradition of Christendom. You don´t even >> know it. It is more: you negate it. >> >> >> I know the traditions of my country quite well and they include religious >> tolerance - the first nation to encode that in its constitution. >> >> Brent >> "If God had decreed from all eternity that a certain person >> should die of smallpox, it would be a frightful sin to avoid and >> annul that decree by the trick of vaccination." >> --- Timothy Dwight, President of Yale 1795-1817 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Alberto. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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