Hi Bruno Marchal My view that science and religion are mutually exclusive is certainly not true of catholics, who at least since Aquinas, believe that truth is reason-based. And even Luther mellowed a bit in later years against his harsh view of reason (which opposes faith).
But, having said that, nevertheless I hold with Stephan Jay Gould's position, that of "Non-overlapping magisteria" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-overlapping_magisteria "Non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA) is the view advocated by Stephen Jay Gould that science and religion each have "a legitimate magisterium, or domain of teaching authority," and these two domains do not overlap.[1] He suggests, with examples, that "NOMA enjoys strong and fully explicit support, even from the primary cultural stereotypes of hard-line traditionalism" and that it is "a sound position of general consensus, established by long struggle among people of goodwill in both magisteria."[2] Despite this there continues to be disagreement over where the boundaries between the two magisteria should be.[3] ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-27, 07:05:33 Subject: Re: Facts vs values On 25 Jan 2013, at 16:38, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Dear Roger, This is the lutheran view. That? fine. I love lutherans. but this work as long as you have faith. But once leave the faith, people have no guide in very important things and fall in primitive cults with a modern facade. For this reason I advocate the scientific study of faith, belief, morals etc. I particularly don? feel comfortable talking about subjects like this in this group. But belief, and shared beliefs, is an irreductible component of what we call "reality". Separating science and religion makes both science and religion into pseudo-science and pseudo-religion. There is no science, there is only people able to stay calm in front of ignorance, I think. Bruno 2013/1/25 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> I have no conflict being a scientist when I deal with science, and being a Christian when I deal with the Bible. Or with science when I deal with science and with aesthetics when I visit an art museam. Or go to a concert. Or with being a scientist when I deal with the Big Bang and being a Christian when I read Genesis. Two different accounts, from two different realms, of the same event. Science has its own realm of validity in the realm of facts, but has no place -not even a foothold-- in the world of values. The difference between a fool and a wise man is in knowing the difference. - Roger Clough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
