In the same way, except a few in a concrete time in the greek history, the
Greeks believed that the earth was flat, with the center in Greece. The
world okeanos, (ocean) was a river, that surrounded the earth, where greece
was at the center.

The XII century, the time of Juachim de Fiore, and the time of the Katars
was a time of greath economic growth. It is true that the inquisition was
created at that time, but except with the katars (that worshipped Lucifer),
the  Inquisition became really active in the
Renaissance.The horrid Spanish Inquisition produced around 2000 death
penalties, while the protestants burned without ,judicial case, thousands
between battle and battle in the European wars of religion

Compare this with the hundreds of thousands killed in La Vendee, a smal
region of France in a few days, killed by the rationalist french
revolutionaries or the hundred millions killed by the scientific
socialists. (or the 5+30 millions killed by the  modern eugenesists).

The selection of stories in a biased way is a proof of nothing but the own
prejudices.


2013/1/24 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>

>
>
> On 1/24/2013 9:12 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> All these things are part of the myths of modernity. The reality is quite
> different. The idea that the medievals though that the earth was flat is
> larguely a myth,
>
>
> "As to the fable that there are Antipodes, that is to say,
> men on the opposite side of the earth where the sun rises
> when it sets to us, men who walk with their feet opposite
> ours, that is on no ground credible."
>       --- St. Augustine
>
> To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous
> as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin.
>       --- Cardinal Bellarmine, 1615, letter to Paolo Frascioni
>
>
>  as true as the fact that now a fair amount of the people in the world
> believe that Man has not been in the Moon. Inquisition, for example, and
> the burning of withches was a phenomenon of the early modern age not from
> the middle age, where woman had quite more freedon,
>
>
> The Church punished heresy from the time it gained power.  Inquistions
> became formalized with the suppression of the Cathars in the 12th century
> (the medieval period by any reckoning)
>
> Certainly, the pursuit of knowledge was obstructed by the Church as long
> as it had the power - not just in the medieval period. The Spanish
> Inquisition ended in 1834.
>
>  The popular ideas about the medieval era are based in prejudices that
> are part of the essence of modernity, which has the need of the existence
> of a "dark age" (the "Middle Age") and a Golden age (The ancient age) for
> its existence. the mytical tree stages in history is part of this gnostic
> elaboration invented by Joachim de Fiore. Since them all ideological
> creations, including the modern division of history had three stages.
>
>
> And the Catholic Church has been trying to revise history ever since to
> conceal it's role in obstructing science, oppressing women, harboring
> pedophiles, and murdering jews.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/24 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
>
>>  On 1/24/2013 8:33 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
>>
>> This is exactly what happened to Islam in the 1300s.
>> After the fundamentalists took over, rationality was dispensed with,
>> and centuries of scientific progress were deemed sufficient for Islam
>> for all time. And so it seems that Islam went from world leadership in
>> science to where it is today.
>>
>> Fortunately the same did not happen to the Christians. But based on
>> John's comments, I wonder why not.
>>
>>
>> But it did happen.  The Greeks already knew the Earth was a sphere, how
>> far away and how big the Sun was.  They had a speculative idea of
>> biological evolution.  They had the concept of atoms and how all matter
>> might be constructed from just a few basic components in different
>> combinations.  Aristotle was an empiricist.  If it had not been for the
>> early Church's emphasis on faith, dogma, and rationalism, science would be
>> centuries more advanced.
>>
>> Brent
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