On Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:31:41 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Bruno Marchal > <mar...@ulb.ac.be<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > On 23 Jan 2013, at 23:50, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Bruno Marchal > >> <mar...@ulb.ac.be<javascript:>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Arithmetical truth is a sort of block-brains-in-a-vat > >> > >> > >> This is what I mean by the term "Quantum Mind" > >> I think of the Quantum Mind as a Block Metaverse > >> containing all possible universes which is timeless > >> since everything in the MWI Metaverse is known > >> to first order like the trajectories of the galacies, > >> stars and planets. and probably all cosmic events like supernovae. > >> As you say, I think, it is first person uncertainty that forces > >> what I call the Quantum Mind to recalculate the future > >> and therefore time is introduced. > > > > > > > > OK. You might still look a little bit like assuming some physical > reality, > > which cannot be done if we want extract a theory of both quanta and > qualia. > > It can be done in the meta-theory, but not in the theory itself. > > > > The terming "quantum mind" has (bad, imo) connotations related to the > misuse > > (I think) of QM in cognition, like assuming consciousness reduces the > wave > > packet. > > Although there is arguably a first person indeterminacy in QM (without > > collapse), it should be recovered from the arithmetical (or comp) first > > person indeterminacy (if my UDA point is without flaw). > > > > Bruno > > Well now that gets us back to my original question, > is it possible that arithmetics created matter > in the beginning, whatever that means, > and that matter evolved according > to arithmetic predictions since then > (so to speak as time may not exist)? >
Couldn't we substitute anything for matter? How is it falsifiable? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Richard > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > >> > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:>. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/bTcZo_xh380J. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
