OK, careless connotation. JM

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  Hi John Mikes
>
> Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.
>
>
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>  Brent:
> you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader actively
> also empowers the follower then (s)he may be responsible for anything that
> happens in such empoweredness. Luther conscience-wise, Hitler
> materially/organizationally empowered the followers. The 'leader' of the
> KKK, or the NRA is responsible for crimes committed in their empowerment.�
> The 'judge' is not the killer of the executed criminal, but responsible
> for the killing - although many systems give the judge impunity for
> mistakes. How about wars?
>
> I take exception to 'poverty' not being a forced oppression: in many
> systems the 'upper class' rich people deprive the 'lower class' paupers of
> means to elevate economically, although cute scientists explain such
> development as a rightful evolution in society. They lie.�
> When Boehner urges tax-cuts for the super-rich and deep cuts in benefits
> for poor people (and succeeds) that is willful oppression. He personally
> may not push a slum-kid into hunger - or crime, but IS responsible
> nonetheless.�
> I was an underdog under both Nazis and Commis, I know what it feels to be
> forcibly oppressed. NG!�
>
> JohnM
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/26/2013 3:25 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>>
>> 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with爐he extermination of
>> the jews.
>>
>>
>> He didn't directly kill any, he just motivated the killing.� But then the
>> same is true of Hitler.
>>
>> Brent
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