Hi John Mikes 

Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.


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Time: 2013-01-26, 16:24:49
Subject: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality


Brent:
you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader actively also 
empowers the follower then (s)he may be responsible for anything that happens 
in such empoweredness. Luther conscience-wise, Hitler 
materially/organizationally empowered the followers. The 'leader' of the KKK, 
or the NRA is responsible for crimes committed in their empowerment.?
The 'judge' is not the killer of the executed criminal, but responsible for the 
killing - although many systems give the judge impunity for mistakes. How about 
wars?


I take exception to 'poverty' not being a forced oppression: in many systems 
the 'upper class' rich people deprive the 'lower class' paupers of means to 
elevate economically, although cute scientists explain such development as a 
rightful evolution in society. They lie.?
When Boehner urges tax-cuts for the super-rich and deep cuts in benefits for 
poor people (and succeeds) that is willful oppression. He personally may not 
push a slum-kid into hunger - or crime, but IS responsible nonetheless.?
I was an underdog under both Nazis and Commis, I know what it feels to be 
forcibly oppressed. NG!?


JohnM


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

On 1/26/2013 3:25 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with?he extermination of the 
jews.

He didn't directly kill any, he just motivated the killing.? But then the same 
is true of Hitler.

Brent

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