Hi John Mikes Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews.
----- Receiving the following content ----- From: John Mikes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-26, 16:24:49 Subject: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality Brent: you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader actively also empowers the follower then (s)he may be responsible for anything that happens in such empoweredness. Luther conscience-wise, Hitler materially/organizationally empowered the followers. The 'leader' of the KKK, or the NRA is responsible for crimes committed in their empowerment.? The 'judge' is not the killer of the executed criminal, but responsible for the killing - although many systems give the judge impunity for mistakes. How about wars? I take exception to 'poverty' not being a forced oppression: in many systems the 'upper class' rich people deprive the 'lower class' paupers of means to elevate economically, although cute scientists explain such development as a rightful evolution in society. They lie.? When Boehner urges tax-cuts for the super-rich and deep cuts in benefits for poor people (and succeeds) that is willful oppression. He personally may not push a slum-kid into hunger - or crime, but IS responsible nonetheless.? I was an underdog under both Nazis and Commis, I know what it feels to be forcibly oppressed. NG!? JohnM On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: On 1/26/2013 3:25 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with?he extermination of the jews. He didn't directly kill any, he just motivated the killing.? But then the same is true of Hitler. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ? ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.