On Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:24:49 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote: > > Brent: > you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader actively > also empowers the follower then (s)he may be responsible for anything that > happens in such empoweredness. Luther conscience-wise, Hitler > materially/organizationally empowered the followers. The 'leader' of the > KKK, or the NRA is responsible for crimes committed in their empowerment. > The 'judge' is not the killer of the executed criminal, but responsible > for the killing - although many systems give the judge impunity for > mistakes. How about wars? > > I take exception to 'poverty' not being a forced oppression: in many > systems the 'upper class' rich people deprive the 'lower class' paupers of > means to elevate economically, although cute scientists explain such > development as a rightful evolution in society. They lie. >
Good point. Poverty is often a means and an end for intentional oppression. I was thinking that it would be oppressive even without that extra malice though. Craig > When Boehner urges tax-cuts for the super-rich and deep cuts in benefits > for poor people (and succeeds) that is willful oppression. He personally > may not push a slum-kid into hunger - or crime, but IS responsible > nonetheless. > I was an underdog under both Nazis and Commis, I know what it feels to be > forcibly oppressed. NG! > > JohnM > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> On 1/26/2013 3:25 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with the extermination of >> the jews. >> >> >> He didn't directly kill any, he just motivated the killing. But then the >> same is true of Hitler. >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
