On 21 Mar 2013, at 23:04, Russell Standish wrote:

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 01:46:11PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
But still, I tend to bet that creativity, if he can exploit it, is still
independent of it.

I still find it hard to grasp how we could have a creative process
without some degree of random exploration.


Bruno has a technical definition of "creative" due to Post, that is
most definitely deterministic. I haven't had the chance to really
understand what that means (I've read Wikipedia, and the significance
escapes me :()

But I agree with Telmo - I think random exploration is an essential
component of creativity - whether that's truly random, or just random
with respect to the observer (ie cryptographically strong), is still a
bit of an open point. Whether there's any connection to Post's sense
of creative is another open question ...

That's part of what I will explain to Liz on your list, but I will see how to make the explanation available from here, without exploding the mail boxes.

It is not for today, perhaps next week,

Best,

Bruno




Cheers

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