On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:19:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 3/26/2013 4:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I can explain why if a machine can have experience and enough reflexivity, > then the machine can already understand that she cannot justify rationally > the presence of its experience. No machine, nor us, can ever see how that > could be true. It *is* in the range of the non communicable. > > If some aliens decide that we are not conscious, we will not find any > test to prove them wrong. > > > And if we decide the Mars Rover is conscious, can any test prove us > wrong? Or if Craig decides an atom is conscious, can any test prove him > wrong? Which I think is John Clark's point: Consciousness is easy. > Intelligence is hard. >
Consciousness is easy to the point of being inescapable if you take it for granted and hard to the point of being impossible if you don't - which is why it is the ground of being. Craig > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
