On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:19:14 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 3/26/2013 4:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I can explain why if a machine can have experience and enough reflexivity, > then the machine can already understand that she cannot justify rationally > the presence of its experience. No machine, nor us, can ever see how that > could be true. It *is* in the range of the non communicable. > > If some aliens decide that we are not conscious, we will not find any > test to prove them wrong. > > > And if we decide the Mars Rover is conscious, can any test prove us > wrong? Or if Craig decides an atom is conscious, can any test prove him > wrong? Which I think is John Clark's point: Consciousness is easy. > Intelligence is hard. >
Consciousness is easy to the point of being inescapable if you take it for granted and hard to the point of being impossible if you don't - which is why it is the ground of being. Craig > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
