On 26 Mar 2013, at 18:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/26/2013 7:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
It is a bit what happens, please study the theory. Qualia are
useful to accelerate information processing, and the integration of
that processing in a person. And they are unavoidable for machines
in rich and statistically stable universal relations with each
Can you describe exactly how they are unavoidable?
You need the theory, but in a nutshell, they are unavoidable because
they are truth that machine will discover when looking inward. They
correspond to true facts, which are not sigma_1, but which concerns
noneless the machine (like having a local model, or being in some
Specifically I wonder what constraints this puts on them.
They obeys to the two modal logic system: S4Grz1, X1* minus X1, and
their higher order extensions.
Looked at from the aspect of engineering intelligence I would assume
it would depend on sensor capabilities, i.e. that machines would
primarily communicate about what they can both see. But that
doesn't account for humans who communicate a lot about what they feel.
Qualia do not need sensors conceptually, with comp, but in practice,
it is the simplest way to get them in accordance with the local
universal neighbors. The theories manetionned above can explain well
why qualia are non communicable---in the sense of rationally justified
by the machine, but why we can still communicate on them, and project
them on other machines or entities.
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