I have tried to study the UDA but lack sufficient understanding to see how the UDA could compute an infinite number of paths or universes as in the diffraction example I discussed.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2013, at 17:07, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > Telmo, > > I can only give you my opinion. You are of course referring to the double > slit experiment where one photon can follow at least two different paths, > and potentially an infinite number of paths. > > But even diffraction of a single photon will do that: in the simplest case > send a photon on to a semi-infinite metallic plane and the photon > potentially scatters into an infinite number of paths from the edge of the > plane. We only know which path when the photon reaches a detector plane on > the far side. The actual deterministic diffraction pattern only emerges > when the number of photons sent approaches infinity in plane waves. The > actual path of a single photon is random within the constraints of the > infinite-photon diffraction pattern. > > So I say the way to deal with that is to propagate a large number of > photons or do an EM wave calculation for the diffraction pattern. > > I wonder how comp treats such single photon instances. Does it use > algorithms that are random number generators? > > > No, it uses the first person indeterminacy in self-multiplication, which > explains where the quantum wave comes from. I have explained this on this > list and published it a long time ago. That is why I told you that if you > take comp into consideration, you must derive QM and perhaps string theory > (if it is correct) from addition and multiplication of the natural numbers. > I see you have not yet studied or grasped the UDA :) > > Bruno > > > > > Richard > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Mathematics itself seems rather magical. >> > For instance the sum 1+2+3+4+5.....infinity = -1/12 >> > >> > And according to Scott Aaronson's new book >> > when string theorists estimate the mass of a photon >> > they get two components: one being 1/12 >> > and the other being that sum, so the mass is zero, >> > thanks to Ramanujan >> > >> > If that sum is cutoff at some very large number but less than infinity, >> > does anyone know the value of the summation.? >> >> Hi Richard, >> >> Ok, but in that case physics is deterministic, just hard to compute. >> How do we then deal with the fact that two photons under the precise >> same conditions can follow two different paths (except for some hidden >> variable we don't know about)? I'm not a physicist and way over my >> head here, so this is not a rhetorical question. >> >> >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected] >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou < >> [email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg < >> [email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> > If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random way? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> It couldn't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither >> random >> >> >> nor >> >> >> deterministic? >> >> > >> >> > Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make >> >> > predictions about random events. >> >> >> >> In my view, randomness = magic. >> >> The MWI and Comp are the only theories I've seen so far that do not >> >> require magic to explain observed randomness. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Stathis Papaioannou >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups "Everything List" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send >> >> > an email to [email protected]. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> >> > Visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Everything List" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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