Richard, it is still possible. You need to click the [ ... ] box to expand the text. I find the new gmail interface quite annoying myself.
Jason On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > Bruno, Please excuse my bottom posting but my gmail acct prevents me from > interleaving my responses. > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I have tried to study the UDA but lack sufficient understanding to see >> how the UDA could compute an infinite number of paths or universes as in >> the diffraction example I discussed. >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 12 Apr 2013, at 17:07, Richard Ruquist wrote: >>> >>> Telmo, >>> >>> I can only give you my opinion. You are of course referring to the >>> double slit experiment where one photon can follow at least two different >>> paths, and potentially an infinite number of paths. >>> >>> But even diffraction of a single photon will do that: in the simplest >>> case send a photon on to a semi-infinite metallic plane and the photon >>> potentially scatters into an infinite number of paths from the edge of the >>> plane. We only know which path when the photon reaches a detector plane on >>> the far side. The actual deterministic diffraction pattern only emerges >>> when the number of photons sent approaches infinity in plane waves. The >>> actual path of a single photon is random within the constraints of the >>> infinite-photon diffraction pattern. >>> >>> So I say the way to deal with that is to propagate a large number of >>> photons or do an EM wave calculation for the diffraction pattern. >>> >>> I wonder how comp treats such single photon instances. Does it use >>> algorithms that are random number generators? >>> >>> >>> No, it uses the first person indeterminacy in self-multiplication, which >>> explains where the quantum wave comes from. I have explained this on this >>> list and published it a long time ago. That is why I told you that if you >>> take comp into consideration, you must derive QM and perhaps string theory >>> (if it is correct) from addition and multiplication of the natural numbers. >>> I see you have not yet studied or grasped the UDA :) >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Telmo Menezes >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Mathematics itself seems rather magical. >>>> > For instance the sum 1+2+3+4+5.....infinity = -1/12 >>>> > >>>> > And according to Scott Aaronson's new book >>>> > when string theorists estimate the mass of a photon >>>> > they get two components: one being 1/12 >>>> > and the other being that sum, so the mass is zero, >>>> > thanks to Ramanujan >>>> > >>>> > If that sum is cutoff at some very large number but less than >>>> infinity, >>>> > does anyone know the value of the summation.? >>>> >>>> Hi Richard, >>>> >>>> Ok, but in that case physics is deterministic, just hard to compute. >>>> How do we then deal with the fact that two photons under the precise >>>> same conditions can follow two different paths (except for some hidden >>>> variable we don't know about)? I'm not a physicist and way over my >>>> head here, so this is not a rhetorical question. >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Telmo Menezes < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random >>>> way? >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> It couldn't. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither >>>> random >>>> >> >> nor >>>> >> >> deterministic? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make >>>> >> > predictions about random events. >>>> >> >>>> >> In my view, randomness = magic. >>>> >> The MWI and Comp are the only theories I've seen so far that do not >>>> >> require magic to explain observed randomness. >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Stathis Papaioannou >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> >> > Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send >>>> >> > an email to [email protected]. >>>> >> > To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >> > Visit this group at >>>> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> >> "Everything List" group. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> >> email to [email protected]. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "Everything List" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an >>>> > email to [email protected]. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> . >>>> > Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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