On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:24, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Mathematics itself seems rather magical.
For instance the sum 1+2+3+4+5.....infinity = -1/12

Well,  with some convergence criteria!



And according to Scott Aaronson's new book
when string theorists estimate the mass of a photon
they get two components: one being 1/12
and the other being that sum, so the mass is zero,
thanks to Ramanujan

If that sum is cutoff at some very large number but less than infinity,
does anyone know the value of the summation.?

A very large number.

Bruno






On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com > wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com > wrote:
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>> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> > If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random way?
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>>> It couldn't.
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>> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither random nor
>> deterministic?
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> Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make
> predictions about random events.

In my view, randomness = magic.
The MWI and Comp are the only theories I've seen so far that do not
require magic to explain observed randomness.

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