On Friday, April 12, 2013 10:15:27 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou 
> <stat...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg 
> > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> > If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random way? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> It couldn't. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither random 
> nor 
> >> deterministic? 
> > 
> > Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make 
> > predictions about random events. 
>
> In my view, randomness = magic. 
>

I agree. Randomness is indistinguishable from incomplete interpretation.

Craig
 

> The MWI and Comp are the only theories I've seen so far that do not 
> require magic to explain observed randomness. 
>
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